INTEGRA BITES THE DUST! (yellow rice)

[whtteg]

Originally Posted by TypeS

I would never get a yellow car unless it was an exotic. Maybe a Corvette or an Evo, but that's it. I think it looks as bad as that rice lime green color. Why would you need that type of attention for a slow car?

You know that a ITR is not much slower than a CL-S right? Also it would own on a road course.

Don't get me wrong I have a 02 TL-S and I love it, but the light weight ITR is not a slow car by any means.

Also the integra in this race was probably running way rich, but even if it was tuned properly with the mods it had it would probably still lose. Also civicHBsi91 is right about the HP, the 93 integra stock would have about 120ish WHP no more though and with the mods that the car in the race had it probably had about 130-135 hp at best and that is assuming that it was properly tuned.
But yeah if the car did not come in yellow then please don't paint it yellow.

[TypeS]

Originally Posted by whtteg

You know that a ITR is not much slower than a CL-S right? Also it would own on a road course.

Don't get me wrong I have a 02 TL-S and I love it, but the light weight ITR is not a slow car by any means.

I wasn't comparing it to my car. I would say the same thing about a CL-S. That color just doesn't seem right for those type of cars. A 14 second car isn't fast. I don't consider anything over 13.5 in the 1/4 fast, just quick. I know they're nice cars, but I would just never want to own a yellow car that runs 14s. IMO yellow + exotics = , but that's just me

[whtteg]

Originally Posted by TypeS

I wasn't comparing it to my car. I was talking about the color. A 14 second car isn't fast. I don't consider anything over 13.5 in the 1/4 fast, just quick. I know they're nice cars, but I would just never want to own a yellow car that runs 14s. IMO yellow + exotics = , but that's just me

The point I was trying to make, which I did a pathetic attempt at, is that the ITR might be considered a slow or quick car in drag racing. However Honda did not design the car for straight line speed, the fact is that the ITR is an outstanding car for road racing (not street racing) for the money. You should get a ride in one at a road course sometime, it will surprise you for sure. Now I have to agree that in terms of drag racing it feels weak compared to some 13 sec and faster cars, it just does not have the power to compete in those kinds of races.


p.s I did not mean to make it seem like you compared it to your car, I was just giving you a reference of the speed of the car.

[TypeS]

Originally Posted by whtteg

The point I was trying to make, which I did a pathetic attempt at, is that the ITR might be considered a slow or quick car in drag racing. However Honda did not design the car for straight line speed, the fact is that the ITR is an outstanding car for road racing (not street racing) for the money. You should get a ride in one at a road course sometime, it will surprise you for sure. Now I have to agree that in terms of drag racing it feels weak compared to some 13 sec and faster cars, it just does not have the power to compete in those kinds of races.


p.s I did not mean to make it seem like you compared it to your car, I was just giving you a reference of the speed of the car.

I know, I've heard of stock freak ITRs running low 14s.

Anyway, Car & Driver said this about the '03 CL-S "World-class quality, dazzling engine, the best front-drive system anywhere, any time, bar none."

Since you have a TL-S, how do you think an '03 6 Speed CL-S w/ HLSD would stack up against the ITR as far as handling.

[blackturbosrt4]

Good kill, way to get him. What kind of internals do you have?

[whtteg]

Originally Posted by TypeS

I know, I've heard of stock freak ITRs running low 14s.

Anyway, Car & Driver said this about the '03 CL-S "World-class quality, dazzling engine, the best front-drive system anywhere, any time, bar none."

Since you have a TL-S, how do you think an '03 6 Speed CL-S w/ HLSD would stack up against the ITR as far as handling.

Well I have not driven a 6spd, I have the TL-S which as you know is only auto. The manual shift feature kind of sucks, it is not nearly as responsive as I would like and you feel like the car is still in control of the shifting. But a CL-S 6 speed should have no problem beating an ITR in a drag race hands down. The TQ from the CL-S is noticeably greater than the ITR. After driving the TL around for a while and getting back into my integra, the integra feels like a tourqueless whimp lol. As far as road course racing though, my money is on the ITR. It is just too agile. Just my opinion though, everybody will have different opinions.

[TypeS]

Yeah, those 5 speed trannies on the C and TLs are great

If you shift 300-200 rpms before the rev limiter, it will take another 150 rpms to shift. I hate the SS mode, so I always gateshift. Even though it shifts slow, I can still chirp tires at around 40 mph. If I wasn't stuck in traffic for hours every day, I would have gotten the 6 speed a long time ago.

[turbo2nr]

Originally Posted by blackturbosrt4

Good kill, way to get him. What kind of internals do you have?

my mods are in my sig. but as for internal work im am bone stock with 161k. the stock comp. is 8.4:1 and i have forged pistons and rods stock from the factory, my motors can handle up to 18psi befor it start to carp out, my fmu is good for about 12psi stock, the shitty turbo is already overworked, it is designed for a damm 1.3l motor so the on my 2.2l it drops off after 5100rpms and i have untill 6200 if i red line it.. it sucks.. i need a bigger turbo and a chip and ill be good..
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[nissanfanatic]

Damn, I thought I was the high mileage turbo guy! I have 135k but perfect 180psi compression. What kind of turbo are you looking at? What do you have right now?

[turbo2nr]

right now i have a shitty ihi rhb5 .48 a.r on the turbine. i want a .54-.60 a/r im possibly gona do a t-bird turbo hybrid, which leaves me with the shitty .48 a/r but i get a .58 comp and bigger wheel off of the t-bird turbo.. its a common swap done my probe people. but if i had my choice it would be a ball bearing t3/t4 .63 a/r comp and .60 a/r turbine..
he christmas is comming up guys. hehe
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[i3o2Matt]

180psi seems like a lot....:P

[pikkagtr]

Originally Posted by whtteg

Well I have not driven a 6spd, I have the TL-S which as you know is only auto. The manual shift feature kind of sucks, it is not nearly as responsive as I would like and you feel like the car is still in control of the shifting. But a CL-S 6 speed should have no problem beating an ITR in a drag race hands down. The TQ from the CL-S is noticeably greater than the ITR. After driving the TL around for a while and getting back into my integra, the integra feels like a tourqueless whimp lol. As far as road course racing though, my money is on the ITR. It is just too agile. Just my opinion though, everybody will have different opinions.

haven't yet met any Cl's type s auto or 6spd that i haven't beaten in a quick street race say till around 90~105 mph's late nights, always about 3~4 cars at the end
accept for one
comptech supercharged....pulled like i was standing still at the top of third

[TypeS]

Originally Posted by pikkagtr

haven't yet met any Cl's type s auto or 6spd that i haven't beaten in a quick street race say till around 90~105 mph's late nights, always about 3~4 cars at the end
accept for one
comptech supercharged....pulled like i was standing still at the top of third

You must have ran into some shitty drivers then because stock for stock they're pretty close but the CL will be better up top because weight is less of a factor. Now, the 6 speeds will take you for sure, if they know how to drive somewhat. But then again, i don't know if you're stock or not. There's an M3 owner who ran his wife's stock CL-S 6 speed to a 14.0 with no spare.

[whtteg]

Originally Posted by pikkagtr

haven't yet met any Cl's type s auto or 6spd that i haven't beaten in a quick street race say till around 90~105 mph's late nights, always about 3~4 cars at the end
accept for one
comptech supercharged....pulled like i was standing still at the top of third

Is your car stock? I have to agree the CL-S 6spd should take a ITR no problem, but as we all know sometimes what should win does not. Now if you have raced some TL' or CL's that were not Type S then yea you would take them for sure, but the Type S' are pretty damn quick.