Mysterious poison gas used in Fallujah, residents claim

[codycool]

Originally Posted by Heep

True, but we have no more reason to believe everything they report, other than for familiarity's sake, or because the U.S. propaganda has done such a thorough job of labelling the Islamic untrustworthy...

Well there are about 50 news sources that were allowed into fallujah. If you dont believe any of them then I dont know what to tell you.

[Heep]

Originally Posted by codycool

Well there are about 50 news sources that were allowed into fallujah. If you dont believe any of them then I dont know what to tell you.

I'm not saying I don't believe them, in fact, I do, I'm just saying that we have no proof that either side is objective or correct.

[Flatrater]

I feel with the American media is untrustworthy. They will screw anyone to get their name in the paper. I doubt the media can care less who they screw. Its all about selling newspapers. If they can slam a solider they will, if they can slam the muslims they will. The US media will not hide anything.

[T4 Primera]

I don't know about gassing people - but the cluster bombs have been reported all along.

I think what some of the eye witnesses may be trying to articulate and getting confused about is the use of phosphorous rounds.

http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en...phorus&spell=1

As for the Napalm - here's one for y'all.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...9_1n5bomb.html

[syr74]

Originally Posted by taranaki

I basically posted this for my own amusement.I get so tired of seeing the same old posters starting the same ridiculous threads full of pro-Bush garbage dressed up as journalism.Thought I'd take the time to find something that was blatantly biased and patently unprovable from the other side for a change,just to see who was shallow enough to bite.

Thanks for playing,guys, if you've questioned the value of this thread, perhaps you'd be so good as to refrain from posting any more like it.It's time people stopped making excuses for a deadbeat President with a loose set of marbles.

Nope, I am not buying it. The above is nothing more than a poor attempt to back out of an even poorer allegation collapsing around you. "Blatantly biased and patently unprovable" is true in this case is in many of your posts. Why should I believe this time is any different than the rest?

Perhaps you could replace Dan Rather as his allegations seem to hold about as much weight.

[aloharocky]

Maybe it was CN or CS gas. We used it to bring little people out of tunnels so we could properly shoot them. It's RIOT gas, and non-fatal. But it will definately make you "hysterical" LOL. The news comes from the same agency that claims the US uses a giant vacuum cleaner to vacuum up all the detroyed American tanks and dead Americans before the Iraqi civilians can see how bad we're getting our ass beat.

[Muscletang]

Originally Posted by syr74

Perhaps you could replace Dan Rather

OUCH! That's below the belt right there.





but funny!!

[aloharocky]

Dan Rather? Ho Ho Ho.
And Maybe Michelle Moore will make a "documentary" movie about it.

[taranaki]

Originally Posted by syr74

Nope, I am not buying it. The above is nothing more than a poor attempt to back out of an even poorer allegation collapsing around you. "

Well,I told you different, if you want to come straight out and call me a liar, you'd better have bigger balls than you've shown thus far.

[Delta Dart]

Originally Posted by taranaki

, you'd better have bigger balls than you've shown thus far.

It doesn’t take any balls to post on the internet. It takes balls to serve in a combat zone but I guess you didn’t learn anything about that in the QUEENS Navy.

I have read enough of your anti-U.S bullshit. You talk a lot of shit about my country and you are so narrow minded its ridiculous. FUCK YOU little man! Yes, I know that I am banned.

[taranaki]

Originally Posted by Delta Dart

It doesn’t take any balls to post on the internet. It takes balls to serve in a combat zone but I guess you didn’t learn anything about that in the QUEENS Navy.

I have read enough of your anti-U.S bullshit. You talk a lot of shit about my country and you are so narrow minded its ridiculous. FUCK YOU little man! Yes, I know that I am banned.

What for?

Being a jerk?

Having balls in an internet forum is a trifle different from in the combat zone.It's more about having some idea of why you hold your beliefs, and the processes by which you get to them.That way, when you come across someone that you disagree with, you are more likely to be able to counter his arguments with a combination of facts, beliefs, case law and research,rather than with single sentence trolling posts that make you look like an undereducated loser.

If you read the forums a little better instead of just skimming them and coming to quick and pre-conceived conclusions, you might have an opinion that matters to me....until then,you are on my ignore list.You ain't worth banning,I don't make martyrs of people with ego issues.Feel free to join Mr No Nuts over there in the corner,if you come to the political forum looking for a redneck brawl rather than a robust exchange of intellect,you're in the wrong place and will continue to be laughed at.

[T4 Primera]

Some pics beginning to surface on this subject of using chemical weapons in Fallujah.

Warning: Graphic picture in link of victims.

http://raedinthemiddle.blogspot.com/...e_archive.html

[Tehvisseeus]

Originally Posted by T4 Primera

Some pics beginning to surface on this subject of using chemical weapons in Fallujah.

Warning: Graphic picture in link of victims.

http://raedinthemiddle.blogspot.com/...e_archive.html

I could be wrong however judging by the side of the mans face it looks more like a burn wound, and yes it does look like he's wounded. Besides the chemical and bio weapons that the US has either a) dont leave marks, or b) leave full body swelling, leasions, etc

[T4 Primera]

I have no idea how to interpret that picture in terms of the state of the bodies. The thing that does strike me is the condition of the bodies in comparison to the surroundings.

It is very odd is there are no signs of damage/burning/scorching of the bedding. That suggests to me that either:
a) the weapon used only affects living tissue, or
b) the victims died elsewhere and the picture is staged, or
c) all of the above.

[Heep]

Maybe I just need to turn the brightness up on my monitor or something, but I can't really see much out of the ordinary in that picture...