Clutch engage point..

[Technical_Automan]

omfg, dude here i'll explain it to you from my professional training instead of your random hearsay. The reason you double clutch is to allow the synchro to catch up to the speed of the input shaft so that it can mesh to the gear with no resistance. Please explain to me how that is bullshit, and take heed to your own sig. And after you give me ur wrong answer for that, tell me how a synchro goes bad then. Because if it's not caused by quick shifting then what is it caused by? Cuz in your statement, a synchromesh trans's syncho can't go bad. Thanks again.

[kjewer1]

Stop being an ignorant cocksucker for one moment and listen up. I don't post random heresay. I post from personal experience. I was working on these cars when you were still shiting in your pants. I'm out in the garage working on the car, and out at the track racing, while you're out swallowing the pork sword. I was in the 11s before you got your "technical training" (not sure if taking one in the balloon knot while watching fast and furious counts as technical training though). Don't talk to me about worn synchros when I'm snapping input shafts and blowing center diffs out the side of the case.

I know what double clutching is and when it is used, so save your fancy description for your "technically trained" highskool boyfriends, faggot. You do not double clutch on the upshift. Are you telling me that every person on this planet shifts too fast? Because all trannies will wear out the synchros eventually. Normal wear and tear. I shift faster than you take omlets on the chin and my synchros last just fine, thanks.


Like I said. Double clutching is only necessary when downshifting a non-syncromesh transmision to match the intermediate shaft speed to the input shaft speed, while rev matching so as not to upset the cars balance going into the turn.

Have fun double clutching your way into the 15s cocksucker. Good luck with your "training."

[joemathews]

Originally Posted by 95 GSXracer

I was working on these cars when you were still shiting in your pants. I'm out in the garage working on the car, and out at the track racing, while you're out swallowing the pork sword. I was in the 11s before you got your "technical training" (not sure if taking one in the balloon knot while watching fast and furious counts as technical training though). Don't talk to me about worn synchros when I'm snapping input shafts and blowing center diffs out the side of the case.

LMFAO, oh wow . It definitely paid off to check back up on this thread :

[97_3clipse]

Hook ,line ,sinker ,GUTTED!!

[BoostedSpyder]

that was some hardcore shit Kevin!!!!!

and nice comment on the F&TF leaving the forum...

and my clutch is all over the place. under load it is down low, but easy driving it is a bit higher...

i was thinking it was because if the sprung disc?

[EclipseBabe95]

kevin, you are my god. that was awesome.

[Technical_Automan]

Originally Posted by 95 GSXracer

I was working on these cars when you were still shiting in your pants.

I was in the 11s before you got your "technical training".

Don't talk to me about worn synchros when I'm snapping input shafts and blowing center diffs out the side of the case.

I know what double clutching is and when it is used, so save your fancy description for your "technically trained" highskool boyfriends, faggot. You do not double clutch on the upshift. Are you telling me that every person on this planet shifts too fast? Because all trannies will wear out the synchros eventually. Normal wear and tear. I shift faster than you take omlets on the chin and my synchros last just fine, thanks.

Like I said. Double clutching is only necessary when downshifting a non-syncromesh transmision to match the intermediate shaft speed to the input shaft speed, while rev matching so as not to upset the cars balance going into the turn.

Have fun double clutching your way into the 15s cocksucker. Good luck with your "training."

Wow sorry to hurt your feelings man, obviously you're mad that I could afford college for what I wanted to do, and I understand. But what's all this homoerotic namecalling? What are you hinting at? I get it, people make fun of you for being homosexual, well I won't, i'm not that mean. But you should know that i'm not that way, i'm not used to having highschool* boyfriends, or "omlets on the chin". I wouldn't know anything about that, obviously you're an expert on it, but I don't want to learn about it, this is a car forum. So you think i'm what 13-14 years old? Well you're far off, but I can tell by your demeanor (attitude) that you can't be much older than that (at least mentally). Now why would you be blowing center differentials and input shafts, maybe you don't know what you're doing. I think you should study some books, they do tell you why things happen the way they do. None of this is necessary, I never said it was mandatory (necessary) to double-clutch, obviously that is the reason for the synchromesh transmission invention, but how could there be wear on the synchronizers if you did double-clutch everytime? Well there wouldn't be any, and they wouldn't ever go bad. So as a protective measure it's a good idea to double-clutch, that's all i'm saying. Sorry if you disagree, but there's far more knowledge backing me up, than your own miniscule and insignificant experiences. Unbelievable the way people act on these forums sometimes to try to look cool, and for what? Write down "you're the coolest" on a piece of paper, that should give you the same satisfaction as reading it on the screen you're looking at right now. Just trying to help you out, no reason to get upset.

[EclipseBabe95]

shut the hell up, kevin contributes more to this forum and in my opinion knows more about dsms than anybody ive seen, and last time i checked this was the dsm forum.... and i could be wrong but i'm pretty sure everybody else respects him for his knowledge here too. id just be careful is all.

[1stGenRocks]

we all get your point double clutching is better for the trans. is it better for your time slips? NO! and very few of us are more concerned with reliabilty then with speed so shut the fuck up.

btw when you have a car that runs 11 you can come tell us about how nothing ever breaks on it because you doubleclutch every shift lmfao

[Technical_Automan]

Wow do you all just make assumptions? I made my point and you got it, where is all this other stuff coming from? I don't double-clutch every shift, that defeats the reason for the invention of the synchromesh transmission, and I was specifically talking about wear and how to prevent it. Racing is another story, when you want to race to upgrade your transmission components to handle it. An 11 second 10 year old car is nothing to be proud of. I've been in the 10's with a 14 year old 350 Firebird, big deal, not hard. Not to mention 11's with a 15 year old twin-turbo Supra (conversion), also not hard. You're thinking small time, i'm not. It's kind of hard to take someone seriously who just said that some random guy on the internet is their god. I'm sorry. And i'd respect anyone who can respect others opinions. But I guess not everyone is mature here and follows the rules. I can see everyone has their little groups like in high school, and just want some excitement in their life so they pick fights on the internet. Not something I want to be a part of, I expected a car forum free from immature teenagers and people that act like them. Guess there's only a few sections on here that are like that, have fun kids I won't be back.

[1stGenRocks]

yay we chased away a moron without having a dozen stupid threads before he finally got banned. lol why did you assume that we gave a shit about reliability? btw 11's are more impressive coming from a 4 cylinder then they are coming from a old v8 with no emmisions or computerized crap. and his 11's are without nos with nos dsm 4 cyl have run mid 7's

[Technical_Automan]

Well I would assume we're talking reliability here since there is a seperate forum for the racing problems. Just going by the setup of the site. And to make the point about the car's, none of them are "impressive". But you talk as though you had something as good or better. And you have a car I could buy for less than a grand. Thanks again.

[Technical_Automan]

I see how it goes here: Every car section is it's own group, and if someone from "another section" comes in and has a disagreement (or misunderstanding in this case), everyone in the section can break all the rules without getting in trouble, and whoever the "outsider" is gets disrespected. Funny but the site rules, that selectively get enforced apparently, seem to go against that sort of thing.

[1stGenRocks]

ha ha thats nice insult my car just because when i have it running like new for less then 2000 (total cost counting the car) it will kick your cars ass. 1g awd turbos are very capable cars so dont even go there.

each forum has a slightly different focus eclipse/talon/laser forum is more interested in going fast. if you read the whole thread you would see thats he was asking about "shifting FASTER" not "shifting BETTER FOR MY TRANS" if you arent going to read the whole thread or at least the original question dont post.

btw what happened to "have fun kids I won't be back" we were all looking forward to it and you dissapointed us.

[Scoped_GST]

ehhhh. Technical_Automan, personally, I dont care how much money you make, what kind of cars you drive, or if you've made it into the 4's. Although I DO respect your "technical training" and the fact that you know more about cars that i will probably ever know, it doesnt really seem like you want to be respected. Although Kevin DID pwn you on his last post , I dont think he should have made assumptions that you know nothing about cars. I dont know much about getting into the 10's, but I DO know that people that are modest are better respected by all, and along with all the knowledge of cars you have, you should at least know that. Looks like either you misunderstood Kevin for a noob, or you were just bein an asshat.