wide wheels

[R.W.240]

That has got to be the lamest attempt at a physics explanation ever "my friend Dave once did this thing with friction and stuff happened and it showed I was righter than every one else on the planet..." what a queer...


Booooo!!! to whoever wrote this article

Boooo!!! to anyone that belived it.

Wider tires will hurt is top speed due to more drag from air and more friction from the ground also unsprung weight increases / more Inertia can slow you down so it is possible to go to big.


now back to the first question... 17x9s +20 +40 will fit with varying degrees of sunken battleship-ness and thats really all you'll ever need on a stock interal SR. and since yours is only Boltons I wouldnt go larger than a 255 tire.

[Hit_N_Run-player]

Originally Posted by k3smostwanted

really, i cannot grasp his theory and proof with open arms. think about it...not once in that whole argument did he use the same car and the same tire (but in different widths) to show the whole difference that the width made. for an experiment to be believable and hold any good information, you have to control as many variables as possible. he compared different cars to different size tires. all the different cars have different suspensions, different sized tires, different weights, some had posi, some were open. WTF...

really instead of writing all of that crap. all as he had to do was take one car. put size of tire "A" on first, see how many G's it pulled. then take the same compound and brand of tire just in a wider tire size of "B" and then see what it did.

Yes i agree with what you are saying, i looked back at the interview again and saw that there never was a controlled variable in those tests. Your procedure would have been alot more accurate and alot faster too, someone should run a test like the one you had described...

[AWDSR20]

Originally Posted by Hit_N_Run-player

hotrod magazine is just randomly posting shit in there mags that are wrong? why the hell is everyone so ignorant around here? what makes it wrong and how do you know? Do you have a twin turbo mustang that runs 10's?? or was that guy just knowing nothing about it and making all those physics and everything up.... Think outside the box guys...

dude calm down! i said "there are many factors , not ONE FORMULA takes into consideration the whole situation!!"
for example the temp is not included in the formula F=uN.

BTW get a physics book not a hot rod mag if u want to dicsuss teh subjct. don't get me wrong , F=uN is a well sound and correct formula , just there are whole lot more to that then just one formula. (weight , temp, momntm....etc)

BTW, calling everyone here ignorant is a dumn stupid way to put urself on the flame list, some of us are at high school, and some are graduated students , and some are just 240 lovers , so don't call us stupid. go to school! take physc its fun!

[AWDSR20]

u= (its calculated at many temps, but the experiment that was discued did not control the temp)

[S13wanabe]

Got to love it when people get pissed off when they're wrong. It's pretty funny. Like I said before, If width didn't matter, then ever racing series in the world wouldn't put limitations on tire width. Width is a big factor is traction. A greater contact patch equals better traction, end of story. And remember, most magazines are influenced by the car companies and product manufacturers to make their product look good. Most magazines take contributions from these companies, and stretch the truth, or only emphasise the good points of a product or car. If you want real facts, go to a race track. See what people are using, you can be pretty sure that that information is accurate.

[Hit_N_Run-player]

ummm hey guys, i already said i agreeded that the guy was wrong, and i wasnt saying anything bad to you AWDSR20, i was just saying that everyone in this forum seems to be ignorant at times. Plus i was calm if you would look and read what i said on the 2nd post of this page, the one i posted that you quoted i wrote and like 2:00am when i had got up at 4am that morning and was really cranky and probably sounded pissed in my posts, sorry bout that though. like i said....

Originally Posted by Hit_N_Run-player

you could do it as maybe a cosmetic upgrade, and you'll see if it actually does help

What are you gonna lose by doing the upgrade? money and thats it, but you could gain alot from it also, i would do it.......

[Hit_N_Run-player]

Originally Posted by AWDSR20

BTW get a physics book not a hot rod mag if u want to dicsuss teh subjct

I didnt have a hotrod mag lol, i got that info from the turbotech101 posts, i dont think i even have a single hotrod mag in my house

[S13wanabe]

Wht is this thread so popular? There are plenty of other, more interesting threads. It amazes me how people keep coming back to argue. I did the same thing and have just now caught myself. Let's try to spread things out. We all get the idea about how wider wheels and tires will affect traction, so let's move on.

[AWDSR20]

Hit n run-player .....its all good bro!

[logik23]

Originally Posted by S13wanabe

Wht is this thread so popular? There are plenty of other, more interesting threads. It amazes me how people keep coming back to argue. I did the same thing and have just now caught myself. Let's try to spread things out. We all get the idea about how wider wheels and tires will affect traction, so let's move on.

Because it's fun to argue!

[D-Bo]

yeah, but you know... when you come home fuckin loaded then its no fun... as i am loaded.. and this thread is no fun,....