wats up with these Hondas thinking they can beat a stang?

[mustangfreak145]

dont get me wrong but civics are alright but its just that almost everyone has one and they get one boom they want to race everybody. this one kid i knew thought he could run his 97 eclipse gs automatic aginst this kids 96 eclipse gst 5spd. the kid in the 96 did not even bother with trying. i said that story to prove a point. some people think they know cars and can run a weak car aginst a fast car. these kids watch the fast and furious to much. you can probably spend about 3 grand on mods for a mustang gt and smoke a honda that has the same 3 grand in mods. all im saying is 4cyl stick with 4clys unless your pushing a turbo 600hp engine. but dont compare a stock civic to a mustang thats stupid.

[gmartinez]

Civics are good cars, a friend of mine owns one, it's a 1.6 L 1998 civic vti with 160 HP (no mods).
Honda 4 cyl motors have a great performance (in 4 -cyl category).
i'm hoping some day after i turbo it, my 4 - cyl 86 LX, can compete with my friend's car.
It's just silly to compare V8 with I4, it's like comparing a motorcicle with a bike.
but, then again, there are great bikes!!

[mustangfreak145]

hondas are good cars for ECONAMY uses. i just dont see why you would try to take a car thats not ment for performance try to boost it up. a stock eclipse turbo has 210 hp and you get to chose fwd or awd. i think thats a pretty good start for a 4-cly import. all im saying is and eclipse would more then likey take a mustang. heres why.

1.) the already have a tactory turbo so no need to buy a costly turbo kit.
2.) 210 is a whole lot better to start with
then 160 because the mods it would take will not take half as much money to mod up to lets say 500hp. on the other hand if you wanted to squese 500hp you would need to mod up the honda out the ass. but in a eclipse ive herd of a serious engine destryer called crank walk but thats woth a 5 bolt engine thata found in a 95 and up. and they also have a weak clutch. i had a 1996 eagle talon esi with no mods and guess what its sitting in my driveway with a 2 in hole in my bell housing!!!!!!!! if you want to know the story here goes.

ok i was driving down a 1 lane road that was 55mph. belive me i live 3miles south of thattanooga and i can tell you no one does 55 down that road. long straight and no cops!!!!???? any how i was doing the speed limit shiftin a 2grand. not even enough to make the engine clutch go out. well it was about 85 to 90 degese out side so it was hott. well im putting it down the road and i hear and feel boom!!!!!!!and the car jearks back. i think i hit something but i did not see anything i stop. i look back at the road and see black oil 100 feet long on the road. I PICK UP A PIECE OF MY BELL HOUSING OFF THE ROAD FOR PETE SAKE!!!!!!! and also i was not even racing anyone no one was around. so i look under and i have to get under a bit but see the oil flowing out and a 2 in ch hole. i dont now why it did that. i had a brand new clutch put it about 2 months ago and i always shifted at2 grand. so what was it?? eclipses has crappy clutches. so i think id take a turbo eclipse awd and mod it up

[andrewespo]

Originally Posted by mustangfreak145

hondas are good cars for ECONAMY uses. i just dont see why you would try to take a car thats not ment for performance try to boost it up. a stock eclipse turbo has 210 hp and you get to chose fwd or awd. i think thats a pretty good start for a 4-cly import. all im saying is and eclipse would more then likey take a mustang. heres why.

1.) the already have a tactory turbo so no need to buy a costly turbo kit.
2.) 210 is a whole lot better to start with
then 160 because the mods it would take will not take half as much money to mod up to lets say 500hp. on the other hand if you wanted to squese 500hp you would need to mod up the honda out the ass. but in a eclipse ive herd of a serious engine destryer called crank walk but thats woth a 5 bolt engine thata found in a 95 and up. and they also have a weak clutch. i had a 1996 eagle talon esi with no mods and guess what its sitting in my driveway with a 2 in hole in my bell housing!!!!!!!! if you want to know the story here goes.

ok i was driving down a 1 lane road that was 55mph. belive me i live
3miles south of thattanooga and i can tell you no one does 55 down that road. long straight and no cops!!!!???? any how i was doing the speed limit shiftin a 2grand. not even enough to make the engine clutch go out. well it was about 85 to 90 degese out side so it was hott. well im putting it down the road and i hear and feel boom!!!!!!!and the car jearks back. i think i hit something but i did not see anything i stop. i look back at the road and see black oil 100 feet long on the road. I PICK UP A PIECE OF MY BELL HOUSING OFF THE ROAD FOR PETE SAKE!!!!!!! and also i was not even racing anyone no one was around. so i look under and i have to get under a bit but see the oil flowing out and a 2 in ch hole. i dont now why it did that. i had a brand new clutch put it about 2 months ago and i always shifted at2 grand. so what was it?? eclipses has crappy clutches. so i think id take a turbo eclipse awd and mod it up

Maybe the guys that you had install it didn't do it right.

[gmartinez]

It would be funny to search for a thread like this in the Honda Automotive forums.

I'm sure there should be one!

hahhaa

[mustangfreak145]

435 bucks to buy the clutch and have them install it. thats what my dad thinks. but the wierd thing is we think the clutch exploded but the flywheel is in tact. the car starts up just fine but no go. no problems till you hit the gas and you go nowere so i dont know

[Ghetto-z]

Originally Posted by someoneb4me

pushrod engines are showing their age

uhh huumm (through clearing noises)

LS1 is all i have to say to that, and NEVER in MY ENTIRE LIFE have a seen a honda (or any 4 banger) win against an LS1 on the street, yes there are 7 sec hondas, but on the street it is very tough for a dohc 4.6 letalone a F**kin 2.0 to beat an ls1

[HighRev87]

Originally Posted by Ghetto-z

uhh huumm (through clearing noises)

LS1 is all i have to say to that, and NEVER in MY ENTIRE LIFE have a seen a honda (or any 4 banger) win against an LS1 on the street, yes there are 7 sec hondas, but on the street it is very tough for a dohc 4.6 letalone a F**kin 2.0 to beat an ls1

Im not exactly a honda fan, but what you just said is so off. In fact I think in the street racing forum we saw a video of a highway race between a civic and a viper, I believe the civic lost, but by margins. Now unless you consider an ls1 a viper raping machine, then I think you should follow stangnut's advice.

[panchoman]

stangnuts advice is true, but ghetto-Z isnt saying that there isnt fast hondas, "yes there are 7 sec hondas, but on the street it is very tough for a dohc 4.6 letalone a F**kin 2.0 to beat an ls1"

ofcourse there has to be fast hondas but next saturday night when ur out driving look and see how many civics can beat the stangs and maros, especially with the ls1.

but i agree if the dohc4.6s have hard times with the ls1 i dont think many hondas can take them

[Ghetto-z]

Originally Posted by HighRev87

Im not exactly a honda fan, but what you just said is so off. In fact I think in the street racing forum we saw a video of a highway race between a civic and a viper, I believe the civic lost, but by margins. Now unless you consider an ls1 a viper raping machine, then I think you should follow stangnut's advice.

you see comparing a street car to a street car is one thing, but comparing a street car to a supercar is entirely another thing, but one a different note i have seen a viper eat ls1 dust, heres the explanation for those disbelievers

most people buy a viper, and leave well enough alone, they have a 500+ hp car and thats good enough, where as an ls1 owner into racing needs to put heads a cam and some bolt ons to run with a viper (dont underestimate the ls1, im not even gonna get into forced induction) so you have a heads, cam, supercharged ls1 running a stock viper, and low and behold the viper gets his ass handed to him

now i gotta go sell my mustang 1995 no engine/trans and my rolex so i can get a 1998 trans am YEA LS1 for me

[dampachi]

"LS1 is all i have to say to that, and NEVER in MY ENTIRE LIFE have a seen a honda (or any 4 banger) win against an LS1 on the street, yes there are 7 sec hondas, but on the street it is very tough for a dohc 4.6 letalone a F**kin 2.0 to beat an ls1"


Wow. No four cylinder can beat an LS1? I bet you guys have never heard of STIs. Never seen an LS1 lose to a four cylinder? You must not get out much at all. Now you're just being silly by quoting the displacement as to try to shame those motors. I recall a 1977? Trans Am with a 400 cubic inch V8 pushin' out a whole 160hp. And not everyone can start with a mustang or a camaro/trans am. People buy hondas because they're reliable. Then they get into racing and stuff...and since they aren't rich they can't run out and buy a mustang cobra. So, they work with what they've got. There are some exceptionally fast four cylinders on the street. Most of those cars only need around 240hp to run 13.9s because they're so light. I hate being the guy to defend all these imports, I drive a gt mustang...but some of you guys are just so far off.

[dampachi]

oh yeah...and "you can probably spend about 3 grand on mods for a mustang gt and smoke a honda that has the same 3 grand in mods." No fucking shit. That's because a mustang gt would already win when they're stock.

[panchoman]

nobody is saying the LS1 cannot be beated by a 4cyl, maybe Ghetto z hasnt ever seen a honda beat a camaro or mustang, but the thing is in this thread people are talking about the errogant honda drivers,who think they can take any car, not all honda drivers, maybe the way the thread was named is making everyone think people are talking about how all hondas are slow, but if u read through it u can see everyone is talking about the riced up civics and shit

[zx2srdotnet]

Originally Posted by HighRev87

Im not exactly a honda fan, but what you just said is so off. In fact I think in the street racing forum we saw a video of a highway race between a civic and a viper, I believe the civic lost, but by margins. Now unless you consider an ls1 a viper raping machine, then I think you should follow stangnut's advice.

that was cheesefrog, and that was woth his old setup pushing 430whp

http://www.cheesefrog.com/albums/album04/civic_03.jpg

looks stock and he only lost by a fender to a 10.7sec viper (9.6 w/ n2o)

[pitbullgst]

as far as i see it for street drag racing it is whoever has put the most money and research into thier cars. fast and furious has ruined it for the true 4 cylinder racers. no one respects hondas because of the idiot kids running around with wings and fart cans. But it seems to me alot of the v8 guys like to throw out power numbers and don't talk about the wieght factor of thier cars. I can go to the track any given night and see v8 guys and 4 banger guys talk smack on one another and they both go run 15's! what the hell!