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damn- you all have windows xp!!!
I will NEVER, EVER run XP on ANY of my computers EVER!!!!!!!! As it stands I only have Winbloz for the couple games I have.

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I will NEVER, EVER run XP on ANY of my computers EVER!!!!!!!! As it stands I only have Winbloz for the couple games I have.

I'd have to say this is the best Windows OS yet. I didnt care for the looks at first but now I really like it. It's extremely stable, at least from my experience with it. It the only machine I'm running Windows on at home now... the others are running MacOS and FreeBSD but I rarely use them anymore because running Windows for personal uses is so much easier.

Linux is just crap. Its not user friendly at all so I dont see why people insist its good for a home user. It's definately the lowest grade server platform. Real UNIX OS's and NT far outperform it. The only place I can see running Linux is in a networked business running UNIX. It's a stable platform for running applications, but unless you have an administrator configuring it the average Joe will not be too happy with it.

BSD (UNIX) is probably the most stable and secure server OS, not to mention the fastest. Solaris and NT are close behind.

MacOS I really like but they really need to sort out the stability issues. Its a damn shame because the Mac PPC's are so great yet the OS is to buggy to put it to full use.


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Linux is just crap. Its not user friendly at all so I dont see why people insist its good for a home user.
That is total BS. I've been using Linux on my desktop for the last two years. I'll admit grandma would have a very hard time using it. But there is no way I'll be Bill's little bitch like the other 90% of the world. There are select few things I can't do with Linux but that is because of MS proprietary formats and OS lock in. Nothing to do with Linux and EVERYTHING to do with MS bully tactics. Linux definatly takes a more knowledgeable user and I'm proud of that. I can't stand working in Windows now. I feel like going from working on a real car to playing with tonka trucks.

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It's definately the lowest grade server platform. Real UNIX OS's and NT far outperform it. The only place I can see running Linux is in a networked business running UNIX. It's a stable platform for running applications, but unless you have an administrator configuring it the average Joe will not be too happy with it.
I don't see how this makes it a bad server platform. There are plenty of business running Linux for their back office applications. Linux is a very stable server. Performance is not a big issue, I'd like to know where you got that idea? Seriously if you have a study I can look at I'd like to see it. Scalability on SMP boards is not the greatest right now, but will get better with SUN and IBM on board. There have been some wild successes with 1000+ node clustering. However, Linux gets better everyday. It must be crap becuase SUN and IBM are all concentrating on Linux now as opposed to their own UNIX varients. Problem with the 'real' *nix systems is that they are very expensive. The problem with Windows is that they are really not all that stable for mission critical applications and they've gained their desktop advantage unfairly.


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BSD (UNIX) is probably the most stable and secure server OS, not to mention the fastest. Solaris and NT are close behind.
It doesn't take too much to lock down a Linux server. Anyhow I'd put NT at the VERY bottom of the security list. MS isn't to interested in providing timely, available security updates. They'd just rather bundle everything up into a new version and sell it to you.

I've never tried BSD, something that's alsways been at the back of my mind. I've got a shit load of new space on this machine now so I might give it a shot.
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I will NEVER, EVER run XP on ANY of my computers EVER!!!!!!!! As it stands I only have Winbloz for the couple games I have.

:finger4: you Bill Gates!!!!!

Here's my current desktop:


Go here and see all my wp. Take what you like.
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wut kinda car is thaaaaaaaaaaat???


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It doesn't take too much to lock down a Linux server. Anyhow I'd put NT at the VERY bottom of the security list. MS isn't to interested in providing timely, available security updates. They'd just rather bundle everything up into a new version and sell it to you.

I've never tried BSD, something that's alsways been at the back of my mind. I've got a shit load of new space on this machine now so I might give it a shot.
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That is total BS. I've been using Linux on my desktop for the last two years. I'll admit grandma would have a very hard time using it. But there is no way I'll be Bill's little bitch like the other 90% of the world. There are select few things I can't do with Linux but that is because of MS proprietary formats and OS lock in. Nothing to do with Linux and EVERYTHING to do with MS bully tactics. Linux definatly takes a more knowledgeable user and I'm proud of that. I can't stand working in Windows now. I feel like going from working on a real car to playing with tonka trucks.
It is not total BS. I've been using Linux since 1996.

User friendly-ness doesnt stop at the desktop. I'd like to see the average person go out and buy a network card, upgraded video card, modem and configure it on a Linux platform. I'd like to see the average person upgrade a hard drive, troubleshoot a boot error, configure and build a kernel, configure service files, etc...

I understand that *you* and I and other techie people know how to do these things, but most would not and documentation isnt exactly geared towards the newbie. Linux's main purpose is in a desktop UNIX environment.



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I don't see how this makes it a bad server platform. There are plenty of business running Linux for their back office applications. Linux is a very stable server. Performance is not a big issue, I'd like to know where you got that idea? Seriously if you have a study I can look at I'd like to see it. Scalability on SMP boards is not the greatest right now, but will get better with SUN and IBM on board. There have been some wild successes with 1000+ node clustering. However, Linux gets better everyday. It must be crap becuase SUN and IBM are all concentrating on Linux now as opposed to their own UNIX varients. Problem with the 'real' *nix systems is that they are very expensive. The problem with Windows is that they are really not all that stable for mission critical applications and they've gained their desktop advantage unfairly.
Linux is a slower OS because its not even a *real* OS, but you know that. Linux can keep up with serving back office apps, but I know you will not honestly tell me you can count on it for mission critical apps. I work in the securities field (stock market) which is dubbed the most mission critical field next to the military. You will never see a Linux app server. In fact you are NOT allowed to run Linux for any market making and order processing.

NT is used just as much for mission critical apps as Solaris or other Unix OS's. We run 50/50 NT/Solaris with no issues here (Merrill Lynch) for both server and workstation for our trading operations. Believe me if either was unstable or undependable it would not be used. Less than a minute downtime can cost over $1,000,000 in losses easily. All of our back office is NT (in case you're wondering...)




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It doesn't take too much to lock down a Linux server.
Compare a fresh install of Linux vs a fresh install of XP. Who's got more vulnerable services running? Linux.




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Anyhow I'd put NT at the VERY bottom of the security list. MS isn't to interested in providing timely, available security updates. They'd just rather bundle everything up into a new version and sell it to you.
Is that a joke? Jason, I'm glad you dont have a security related job like I do! Do you even subscribe to Bugtraq?

There is a new Unix or Linux exploit released at *least* once a week. How often do you see a new Microsoft vulnerability? Once every 3 months? 4 months? 6 months?

Please list for me how many security vulnerabilities were released in 2001 for NT/2000? You can count them on your fingers. How many Unix and Linux vulnerabilities were there? Triple? Quadruple? Even *Cisco* had more vulnerabilities than NT/2000 and Cisco IOS serves only one minute purpose; routing.

There has only been a few cases EVER where MS has taken longer than 1 day to release a patch. How is that not timely? For the most part, every patch MS puts out the patches *before* you even hear of the exploit. They had about 40 something patches released last year, but only 3 published vulnerabilities and the patches for those were released the same day.



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I've never tried BSD, something that's alsways been at the back of my mind. I've got a shit load of new space on this machine now so I might give it a shot.
Go for FreeBSD or OpenBSD.... NetBSD is the bastard child.


BTW... I take back the "crap" comment. I'm not a total MS loving Linux bashing person at all. I just think Linux has a very small role and will never be up to par with Windows or a real UNIX OS. I've always enjoyed getting to know the UNIX OS and its fun to learn and use something other than an MS OS, but to say that you would never run or try XP just because of MS politics, is a little silly.


XP is a very good OS.

Hope you didnt take the Linux comments too personally and take my words for what they're worth...
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but to say that you would never run or try XP just because of MS politics, is a little silly.

XP is a very good OS.

Hope you didnt take the Linux comments too personally and take my words for what they're worth...
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