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Old 11-14-2004, 05:16 PM
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Re: American or Import

Ls1+ cams, headers gears n20. I think you could do it for 5k.
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yup, LS1 or 5.0 mustang....if we're not including the price of the car then LS1 before the 5.0....Reason is i believe LS1's are 346cu in.? versus 302 cu in.. You simply can't argue with cubic inches.
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Old 11-15-2004, 09:42 PM
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Re: American or Import

actually after thinking about it, if we're not including the price of the car.... an '03 or '04 SVT Cobra. Get a pulley for 100-200 dollars. Shazam! here come 11's.!!
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actually after thinking about it, if we're not including the price of the car.... an '03 or '04 SVT Cobra. Get a pulley for 100-200 dollars. Shazam! here come 11's.!!
that one sounds good to me
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Can I enter my 300Z in here?

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Third car down the list.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-300Z...slip-4552.html
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Old 11-21-2004, 11:13 AM
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damn what u runnen under the hood of that thing
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Old 11-21-2004, 04:56 PM
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damn what u runnen under the hood of that thing
Just the little 'ol 6 cylinder engine it came with, with a few extra goodies in and on it.
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Old 11-23-2004, 04:36 AM
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2.4 cavalier lol

turbo it for 5k and make about 350whp and run 11's
you my friend are smoking crack
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Old 11-24-2004, 11:04 AM
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Re: Re: Re: American or Import

Thats What I Said Wtf Is This Guy Talking About Cavoliers Suck 350whp Would Probably Run Low 13 S They Way To Heavy
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Re: American or Import

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Mods/Money (average..cough cough, prices may be a little off)
Evo3 Turbo: $500
3.5" catback: $250
Boost Controller: $75
Fuel Injectors: $300
Fuel Regulators: $500
man...$5000..i already used 1600 bucks used...
AEM adjustable cam gears: $350
High Performance Radiator: $200
Forged Pistons: $1500
Metal Head Gasket: $450
Port & Polished Turbo Kit: $500

and i think ill be runnin at least mid-11s with street tires...i think!
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How about a 1970 dodge Dart 2dr with a 440? I think you could build that for under 5K.
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Re: American or Import

Any kind of budget racer needs to be a V8. Imports are just not strong enough. They need reinforcement in almost every area. As was said before, the cheapest way to go would be a supercharged (no turbo lag) v8 whether it be a camaro, mustang, firebird, etc... a/t w/ 2500 stall converter, cam, some head work, DOT street slicks, and some gears. You will blow any "budget" import out of the water and have about a grand left to blow on what ever you like!
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Re: Re: American or Import

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Any kind of budget racer needs to be a V8. Imports are just not strong enough. They need reinforcement in almost every area.
Really? ... what was I suppose to reinforce?
My 200,200 miles engine (100% original, unopened) has been down the 1/4 mile over 120 times (high 11s/low 12s), been hill climb raced, autocrossed, 20+ dyno pulls, beat on the street and reved well beyond it's 7200 rev limit.
I suppose your "strong" V8's could do that?

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As was said before, the cheapest way to go would be a supercharged (no turbo lag)
Lag? ... drag racing

Do you even know why Top Fuel Dragsters & Funny cars use superchargers instead of turbochargers?

... because turbos are not allowed by the rules because they make too much power. (they were ruled out in the 70s).
There is no lag at the drag strip.
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Old 11-24-2004, 04:27 PM
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Re: American or Import

Most imports are unibody cars & with any sort of "real" power a unibody car would end up like a pretzel. Also since most imports are front wheel drive it takes more skill to get a constistant launch, Also a typical half shaft simply cannot handle this kind of power Too much weight & power up front is not a good combo. I don't know what those guys do to Drag FWD imports but they are definately not, "average joe cars". I don't think this guy wants to be a professional drag racer. He just wants a fast car, on a budget. Granted there will be no turbo lag on the strip there will be TL everywhere else. He also wants an everyday driver. (Supercharger = less initial investment, less maintenance, no stupid turbo lag; Turbo charger = $$$ initial investment(especially trying to turbo a N/A engine), more upkeep & know-how. And yes, I suppose they (v8's) could, I think almost any healthy engine should be able to do the kinds of events described above, "120 quarter mile trips, 20+ dyno pulls, etc..." (The 7200 red line is something I wouldn't touch with my v8 but 4 cyliders goin' 7200 rpm... isn't that the same as 3600 in a v8! lol ) I am not a NHRA expert but I do enjoy whippin' the pants off of turboed up imports in my naturally aspirated 68'.
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I don't know what those guys do to Drag FWD imports but they are definately not, "average joe cars".
There are many street legal imports running 10s ... even FWD ones.
What they lack in power/traction they make up for in weight.

Personally, I would not want a FWD for any kind of racing, but to each their own. I see no reason to take away the successes people with those cars have earned.

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Granted there will be no turbo lag on the strip there will be TL everywhere else.
Really? ... wonder where my lag is.
Have you ever ridden in a properly set up turbocharged car?
Do you realize that WRC cars are almost all turbocharged?
Do you really think I would be successfully hill climbing and autocrossing if I had significant lag?
There are many ways to deal with and conteract "lag."

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(Supercharger = less initial investment, less maintenance, no stupid turbo lag; Turbo charger = $$$ initial investment(especially trying to turbo a N/A engine).
This is a non-issue if you buy a car that is already turbocharged.
And if you didn't, the cost is way offsey by the greater power potential.

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And yes, I suppose they (v8's) could, I think almost any healthy engine should be able to do the kinds of events described above, "120 quarter mile trips, 20+ dyno pulls, etc..."
Show me one V8 that could do all of that with 200,000 miles on it.

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I am not a NHRA expert but I do enjoy whippin' the pants off of turboed up imports in my naturally aspirated 68'.
... and you run what ETs?

SLAYTANIC, why so much angst about cars different than yours?
There really is no harm in appreciating cars that are not the same as yours.
Would you bave a happier life if everyone had a '68 Camaro?

... a few years ago I met a guy in a newer Camaro out on the highway.
We played a little bit and we pulled over to talk.
He was running mid-high 11s and I was only in the mid-low 12s at the time.
He said he could tell that he would have problems with me "up top."
Really nice guy and lots of insight.

He asked me about my car and I showed him a thing or two.
He asked to go for a ride, so I gave him one.
I gave him a few straight blasts and then I gave him some real run through some exit ramps.
He was quite impressed.

His words, "I know my car is faster, but it will never be this fun. It will never feel this fast."

... he was a cool guy. He was open minded and had respect for things different than what he had. Guys like him give "domestic drivers" a good name. What do you do?
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