Why I won't buy a G35 - Page 2

Morpheus XIII · #16 05-08-2002, 02:11 AM

Preach on, brother!

But newer CVTs like those from Audi are known to be at about the halfway mark between automatic transmissions and SMGs. But they are new, and much improvement can be made. They are already significantly quicker than regular automatics, since they have done away with the poor stalling torque converter, and simply use the point picking chain-belt (at each computer controlled movement of the chain, the power is instantly--or more like continuously--transferred throughout the shifts.

But still, nothing compares to a good manual. And from what I've seen, even the best production SMGs can't compare to an average gearbox with a short-throw shifter.

yutaco · #17 05-08-2002, 11:53 AM

Morpheus,

As you may know, Nissan's new extroid CVT does not use chain-belt. It uses disks and rollers and prouds of its direct and quick response. It also said that extroid CVT is very good for transmitting high power and torque, so new GTR is supposed to use it.

Check it out this page though it is Japanese. Can see some images.

http://www.nissan.co.jp/COMPASS/TECH/EXTROIDCVT/frame11.html

Morpheus XIII · #18 05-09-2002, 07:20 PM

Interesting setup. Who knows what new methods for CVTs will be discovered in the near future. It looks like automakers are finally getting serious about the new technology.

Currently, the best automatic I've ever heard of is Prodrive/Graziano's automated manual transmission. Like most other SMGs, it will have all the internal components of a manual transmission (clutch, etc.) while using hydraulic pumps to change gears, but unlike the others, this one will be built from scratch as a purpose-built SMG, instead of using a manual box, fitted with extra components. Without driver required mechanisms (synchros, etc.), and entirely computer controlled, the result is an extremely quick automatic with 7 gears. It is could be within one percent of a CVT's speed.

Jyg 5285spCT · #19 05-09-2002, 07:42 PM

manual tranny will definitely coming after 350 z and g35 coupes get into production, they will have first call, I'm interested in the g35 coupe, with stick as the g35 is butt ugly , actually fugly, both in the front and rear. the coupe will change some of that. hopefullly

TBuz · #20 05-16-2002, 02:51 AM

"Lukedds" is right about the supply / demand theory. Nissan/Infinity do not want to run out of transmissions for the soon-to-be-released G35 Coupe and 350Z. After the initial blitz of sales on these cars, the manual will make it's way to the sedan.
I am curious to see what the differences will be between the 350Z and the G35 Coupe. The dealer says the final HP numbers for the coupe have not yet been decided, though it will be at least 275. How nice would it be if we saw 300 HP which is the target # for the 350Z?

bearG35 · #21 06-04-2002, 08:21 PM

Dude. Buy the coup if you can... In fact drive anything but a weak ass
G20.

blindwhite · #22 06-16-2002, 10:23 PM

I believe reading some summary saying nissan is targeting an age range of 18-30. And yes, there is a manual coupe comming out so too bad whomever is saying no buy because of AT. And I'd say if a car is over 250 HP, Then it's Sporty......the luxury is just an added bonus for your money. Hondas are for old people, so that when they crash they dont have to worry about damage, lol. ^_^

cotmfk · #23 07-06-2002, 08:29 AM

G35 with AWD? That's pretty interesting. What kind of AWD will it have? 50/50 split, or different, etc?

And the next question: Any plans to put some turbos on that thing?

Morpheus XIII · #24 08-25-2002, 08:53 PM

A G35 with all-wheel-drive? You are describing the upcoming next-gen GT-R. So far, it seems that Nissan is set on using the G35's V35 chassis, with the R34's AWD drivetrain, powered by either a turbo VQ35DE, or the VK45DE V-8. Hopefully this thing won't cost too damn much, otherwise it's going to shy away the already uncommited American market.

cotmfk · #25 09-09-2002, 12:57 PM

I would expect it to be at least $50k, though. I am hoping that won't be too mucht o scare people away!

350z4me · #26 09-24-2002, 05:21 PM

I agree, sports cars are made for fun, for me an automatic tran. is not fun. sports cars sould allways have a manuel as an option.

Ey3 c u p · #27 12-02-2002, 02:00 AM

i'm very glad that this post is very old, and Infiniti does offere the 6 speed manual. I hope this is also the same case with the mazda rx8 when it's released. It's not supposed to be released with a manual tranny.

VR6punk · #28 01-26-2003, 10:44 PM

i know this is a dated post, but i feel obligated to give my 2 cents as a new g35 6mt owner. first off, i love the 6-speed and am really happy i got that over the auto. i did think about the auto trans and basically told myself if i wanted a real sports car i'd buy the 350z w/ manual. but of course i went and test drove the 6-speed and fell in love.

anyway, there have been comments about AWD on this thread taht I thought I would address. i for one think it would be in nissan's best interest to focus on adding some excitement to the upper end of the rpm-spectrum. be it through a small turbo or supercharger (from the factory). i think their target customers would appreciate the added power over the AWD as i rarely have a problem getting my g35 to grip the ground, especially w/ the 18's and LSD.

blindwhite · #29 01-26-2003, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VR6punk
i know this is a dated post, but i feel obligated to give my 2 cents as a new g35 6mt owner. first off, i love the 6-speed and am really happy i got that over the auto. i did think about the auto trans and basically told myself if i wanted a real sports car i'd buy the 350z w/ manual. but of course i went and test drove the 6-speed and fell in love.

anyway, there have been comments about AWD on this thread taht I thought I would address. i for one think it would be in nissan's best interest to focus on adding some excitement to the upper end of the rpm-spectrum. be it through a small turbo or supercharger (from the factory). i think their target customers would appreciate the added power over the AWD as i rarely have a problem getting my g35 to grip the ground, especially w/ the 18's and LSD.

Yeah, both AWD and turbo/supercharger-the new Nissan Skyline GT-R. I think they are SERIOUSLY focusing on it currently. Atleast they better be because I am becoming impatient.

bk2kmax · #30 02-04-2003, 07:38 PM

Manuals are great but I think everyone has just put too much emphasis on them, look at drag racing for instance, most if not all of their cars have gone the way of automagic trannies. Why?

Because there's less chance of missed shifts, besides the cars with S/C, turbos and especially awd tend to hook up faster with an auto than with the manual.

I guess it's just the whole old 5 speed or four on the floor attitude that we won't let go of, it makes us feel more at one with the car and the road.

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