Park Avenue 91 lost overdrive

[parkavenuechrome]

Here is a post from my Mustang Racing message boards about TCC lock up solenoids that i posted about my vehicle? Are these guys imagining it to? Look at ~jesters~ reply:


http://forums.mustangworks.com/showt...rque+converter

[Flatrater]

yes you have to remove the side cover.

That is a quote from your link. First of all the TCC is not part of the emissions label. Second of all the TCC is internal to the transmission under the side cover. Third the TCC solenoid is electrical and not vaccum operated. This has been this way since the mid 80's

First you state the ECM is the cause of the problems then you start on this vaccum operated TCC solenoid, which is it?

You have yet to show me anything that suggests a vaccum operate TCC solenoid. If you want I have some old TCC solenoids laying around the shop from the mid and late 80's. This transmission didn't change till the mid 90's when it went to more computer controled. The TMH125 trans disappeared and the 4T60 became the 4T60E which was replaced by the 4T65E. The 3 speed trans became the 3T40E.

Why don't you post a pic of your emissions label! If I am wrong I will admit it but I doubt I am wrong. I have read all of your posts and seen numerous times you talked without knowing what you are talking about.

[Flatrater]

Originally Posted by parkavenuechrome

Hey Flattrater, In a early 80's car what would cause your TC to lock up? Its called a TCC Vacuum Solenoid. When your on the gas your Vacuum drop having your Vacuum advance pull timing out of your motor and unlocking your TC.. You can belive what you want to.. I'll be glad to send you a Vacuum solinoid.. Pre 90's before TPS's and ECM's the vaccum solinoid determined wether the motor was in load or not. Everything was vacuum driven. Its the same in 90's cars and even some today. Were talking about early 90's cars here not 00's.. Look at the Emissions sticker right on the vehicle under the hood.. Guess what it says.. TCC SOLENOID with all the necessary vacuum lines coming to it. And as for saying you don't know it all, thats fine, But do go knocking other peoples knowledge.

Lets see we are dealing with a 1991 front wheel drive car not an early 80's rear wheel drive car am I correct on this? You can send me all the parts you want but we are dealing with an 91 Park. I have parts from a 37 Buick I can send you. No new GM car or truck uses vaccum to control the transmission.

You need to make up your mind are we talking about 1980, 1990 or 2000 transmissions.

[parkavenuechrome]

Man youl have a serious Additude... I work all day and have a family to deal with at nite.. But trust me tonight I will be taking a picture of the TCC vaccum solenoid for ya and posting it.

[parkavenuechrome]

Here it is for ya, Here is a schematic for the 700R4 and notice the engine vacuum switch, or " TCC Vaccum Solenoid "... It is the same for all GM transmissions.. I will have a pic tonight for the one on the PA..

http://www.purplesagetradingpost.com...o/700R4p1.html

[parkavenuechrome]

http://www.350rx7.com/mazda/Torque%2...Controller.htm

here is one for the 200r4

[parkavenuechrome]

http://www.350rx7.com/mazda/Torque%2...Controller.htm

here is one for the 200r4

[Flatrater]

Here it is for ya, Here is a schematic for the 700R4 and notice the engine vacuum switch, or " TCC Vaccum Solenoid "... It is the same for all GM transmissions.. I will have a pic tonight for the one on the PA..

http://www.purplesagetradingpost.co...fo/700R4p1.html

That's great I agree with that site but you still haven't shown a vaccum opertaed TCC solenoid only a electrical TCC solenoid which is what I have been saying all along.

Lets see we are dealing with a 1991 front wheel drive car not an early 80's rear wheel drive car am I correct on this?

I can see you have a reading problem. You might as well use a Saab transmission for your example because it carries the same weight. The post starter has a problem with a FWD trans not a rear wheel please get that thru to your brain. The 700R4 isn't the 4T60 you cannot compare the 2 to solve this problem. All you have to do is admit the TCC is not vaccum operate and that the trans in question is the 4T60.

Man youl have a serious Additude... I work all day and have a family to deal with at nite.. But trust me tonight I will be taking a picture of the TCC vaccum solenoid for ya and posting it.

I'm still waiting!

Since you have a family I would suggest you spend your time with them and not post misinformation. I have seen you post misinformation at least 15 times in the past 2 weeks.

You say I have an attitude because I corrected your misinformation. I'm sorry I hurt your feeling by correcting you before someone wasted their time following your information.

[public]

Originally Posted by parkavenuechrome

You most likely have a vaccum leak going to the TCC lockup solinoid located charcol canister next to the air filter box. your computer could be screrwed up, but my bet is in the vaccum leak.

Stop posting if you do not know what you are talking about. This person needs real help. Not chasing false leads.
The only vacuum device on a 91 Buick tranny would be the modulator if it even has one, which operates the spool valve. The charcoal canister has never had anything to do with the transmission.

[public]

parkavenuechrome. How many trannys have you worked on? I have never seen a early 90's GM car with a vacuum solenoid on the TCC. If you go to the parts america web site you will see a photo of this device. It is electric just like we said.
Borg-Warner S9818 is the part number.
So please stop confusing the issue with misinformation. Go turn some wrenches.

[parkavenuechrome]

Here is the picture of the solenoid in question. And as for how many trannies? Plenty believe me.

[parkavenuechrome]

Look at my gallery and you will see three of the pictures... let me know if you can't see them.

[parkavenuechrome]

Lets Everyone go unplug the solenoid and watch and see out TCC not lock up anymore.. If you still don't believe what i am saying thats great.. Just shows that we need to call our buddies into this post to fight there battles.. pathetic if you ask me. I think you all need to turn some wrenches and stop putting down people information and general knowledge ( public ).

[parkavenuechrome]

As i have been reading the schematics in the haynes manual another name for this is the canister purge valve as well. It senses the vehicle manifold vaccum and it in turn shut off the TCC when no vaccum is detected or low vaccum.

[tman]

Alright, THIS STOPS HERE.

Enough Bickering, lets just all be quiet and make friends again

It seems that parkavenuechrome had an incorrect name for the specific part in question. He realized and corrected his mistake.

Flatrater and Public, you guys were a little too harsh on him, it's our job at AF to educate peopl, not be condescending.

Subject closed, Thread Closed.