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Old 09-20-2004, 10:07 PM
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Re: what to stuff into a crx?

indeed you are correct. lol, guess i shouldnt follow someone when they dont really make much sense in the first place. but yeah either way, i never planned on keeping any of the stock crx engines in there...
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Re: what to stuff into a crx?

dont get JDM motor, just a waste of money when you can get something almost equivilant but much cheaper. and since you are building it up then most of the jdm parts will be taken out.

NA is more expensive then turbo because NA requires more dyno time, and time=$$$. in the NA motor every little thing has to be tweaked, its not just buying the parts. turbo is simpler; beef up internals and boost. the gsr cams are good for boost also, so save a little money there. just keep it from detonating and you are good to go, in most cases. the parts price will be almost the same, unless you get a shit-expensive turbo. usually a full build for both will be around 13g.

the b18c1 is a good choice, its cheaper then the type-r engines, flows almost the same(contrary to the myth that the type-r has much better flow). also has good aftermarket support(the whole B-series thing). and its lighter then the h22.
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Re: what to stuff into a crx?

well actually i think i just found my best solution. how about a b18b1 from an integra ls and then supercharge it? internals should hold up to the 200whp ild like to get out of the car, so the only thing id reall yhave to pay for would be the engine and the supercharger. im really not looking to go all out with this car since it would be my first project. 200-250whp would be plenty enough for me.
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Re: what to stuff into a crx?

Yeah the build up might be the same price and tuning might cost more for NA, but you still have to buy the turbo kit. And yeah I think the type r is the same head as the gsr (of course the cams and valvetrain are different)but the type r had a mild p&p; maybe some other minor things as well. But you're right on the not getting jdm thing, because of exactly what you said. I never understood people who say they had to go with the jdm motor and are planning on rebuilding it anyways to go NA; complete waste of $ that could be spent on parts.
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Re: Re: what to stuff into a crx?

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well actually i think i just found my best solution. how about a b18b1 from an integra ls and then supercharge it? internals should hold up to the 200whp ild like to get out of the car, so the only thing id reall yhave to pay for would be the engine and the supercharger. im really not looking to go all out with this car since it would be my first project. 200-250whp would be plenty enough for me.
I think that's a good choice. Personally I've been swaying back and forth between a few different motors, but I keep coming back to the LS w/FI. Low compression and a little more torque stock than the gsr; can't beat that...well maybe ITR or h22a w/FI.
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Re: what to stuff into a crx?

sounds good(supercharged b18b), even though the rods can handle about 200whp, upgrade them just as insurance. they are usually the weakest link in a motor.
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Re: Re: what to stuff into a crx?

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uhh.. the hx didn't even come out until '96, when the crx was already dead and buried (other than the del sol of course)
HX was still poo....just stating a fact.. :-P
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Re: Re: what to stuff into a crx?

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sounds good(supercharged b18b), even though the rods can handle about 200whp, upgrade them just as insurance. they are usually the weakest link in a motor.
and after the rods its the block... i dont know how many cracked production b18 blocks i have seen...but its hella lot... i think DART performance should be ever imortified for recreating the well designed b18 block in much stronger CNC machiened aluminum....
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Re: Re: what to stuff into a crx?

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sounds good(supercharged b18b), even though the rods can handle about 200whp, upgrade them just as insurance. they are usually the weakest link in a motor.
you dont need to upgrade the rods, the rods can handle 300whp, which is alot more then 200whp. but you are right in a sense that they are usually the weakest link.

and usually if you see a cracked sleeve on a block its due to bad tuning or running more power then the block can handle. honda blocks are strong with stock sleeves handling over 500whp, so its hardly ever running more thent eh sleeves can handle, its usually always bad tuning
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