Cobalt vs. Celica GT-S

[FordJunky]

considering the mustang has almost the same hp/liter and costs less than half the price (or the almighty 5.0 cammer for that matter)... not baggin on the vette engine but pushrods are losing the war. and besides that i meant its dissapointing compared to the previous engine in the zo6... bigger with 5 less hp (granted this isnt the z06) but im hopin corvette puts out a faster vette soon.

[SSBigBlock]

Chevy will be coming out wiith a Z07 soon not sure on the specs though. I would like there cocept car. The Tiger Shark which has 750 HP Now thats a vette that I want. Back to the Import beating thing. I like the whole sleeper thing. It would be funny to see a import with a cocky driver get beat by a 89 caprice. Back to Mason. A good friend of mine has a base Integra(DC5). They are fun to be in. Sleepers to me are the best. Some cocky guy with a civic si or something like that. You come up with a car that don't look all that great but your hiding a secret that you have done a lot of work on the inside and your car hauls arse. You both get ready to go and when you do, you completly spank him and he is all like WTF. And there is one less cocky import racer out there. No offense to those who drive imports, I like some of them my self and I know there is some out there that knows what they are doing.

[Sean_S]

Originally Posted by freakonaleash1187

okay, consider the new f-430, 4.3L v-8 making 495 hp, that is 1.7L smaller than the corvette engine and making 95 more hp. but i can already see it now, "but look how much you pay for a ferrari comapred to the corevette". i'm just comparing engines here, not prices.

Haha but it's a fair arguement. Besides, the neat thing about the LS2 engine isn't the 400/400, it's the 20/29 mpg on the road. That is just nuts. Buuuuut that's a tad bit off topic.

As for the Cobalt... uhg a supercharger on a 4 cyl. I assume they did this to keep the price down? Although Dodge did just fine keeping the price down on the SRT-4. Hrm.

I think I would be hard pressed on the whole Celica vs SS Cobalt. I don't think you could lose either way. I just plain like the Celica more but my domestic nuthugging pulls me toward the Cobalt. What to do?

[kman10587]

I'm kinda in the same boat. The Cobalt SS looks like the more exciting car to me, but my loyalty to Toyota pulls me towards the Celica and the tC. I guess I'd buy whichever one is cheaper in this case (which would probably be the Chevy).

[89IROC&RS]

well let me ask, is the drivetrain of the cobalt the same as that of the cavalier??? because i have been doing some research, and have pretty much figured out how to adapt the AWD running gear of the venture van into a cavalier, but only with an automatic. still working out the bugs for a manual. but if the cobalt is basicly a restyled cav, how about an AWD supercharged cobalt vs the celica???? and there are plenty of aftermarket modifications for the ecotec, personally i would probly pull the supercharger and throw on a turbo kit with an intercooler for 250+hp but thats just me.

[genjy]

The Cobalt and the Cavaliar are different cars. I think they share the same base 2.2L and tranny, but for the most part, they are completely different.

[jmrev]

i havent seen times for a cobalt, but i know for a fact that the celica gts can do 14.4 stock, if the driver is good.

[kman10587]

There is no way in hell a Celica GT-S can do 14.4 bone stock. Show me a time slip -- hey wait, there is none.

[ghetto7o2azn]

Originally Posted by SporkLover

Cobalt comes with an Eaton Supercharged Ecotec 2.0L. The supercharger on it is pretty muc maxxed out boost wise.... so short of pulling the supercharger and porting/ polishing, or swapping it for the bigger M90... you wont be able to mod the car that much.

You could probably still do the typical bolt-ons but with the supercharger maxxed out its hard to get any significant or cheap power out of it.

companies never "max out" superchargers or turbo chargers... if they did engines would be blowing up everywhere... i dont think i have ever heard of a car that came with 30psi stock

[DinanM3_S2]

Originally Posted by mason_RsX

Thanks man...always good to get a compliment...and I am a fan of the old school caprice

Now that were completely off topic, I have to say that im impressed with the 6L 400hp vette engine...I think that for a pushrod engine it really fights the DOHC trend well...Consider the 760...a 6L V12 only puts out 44 and 38 more hp and torque respectively, and thats BMW known for getting the most out of every engine, and its got 4 more cylinders

I dont think its very fair to compair the V12 from a luxury BMW against a sports car engine for power #s. Engines you should really be impressed with are the E60 M5's 5.0L V10 with 500bhp and the E46 M3's 3.2L with 333hp.

Originally Posted by kman10587

There is no way in hell a Celica GT-S can do 14.4 bone stock. Show me a time slip -- hey wait, there is none.

Agreed

[mason_RsX]

I don't care how luxurious it is its a V12! and it does have more hp and torque than a Hemi, which displacement wise is close enough competition...and I am impressed with the E46

I would be impressed if a celica could run a 14.4 stock, but thats not happening

[jmrev]

ive done 14.4, you see when mags test car they dont speed shift or go into red line, the celica vvtl-i kicks in at 6600 i think, so if you can drive to 8k rpm than you will get a fast time. I did this on a bone stock celica, let me find the site for stock times and ill get back at you.

[kman10587]

Originally Posted by jmrev

you see when mags test car they dont speed shift or go into red line,

ROFL!!! You, sir, are an idiot.

[3kgt8]

yea this guy swears that a celica gt-s can run a 14.4. what a liar man. its more like a 15.4.

[gonenuts15792]

Ok, The Cobalt is not a Redone Cavalier, and Pushrods are best for high performance engines, and cheaper to boot. High Tech doesn't always mean better.