STILLEN QR-PRO ecu upgrade

[TeggyLS]

with the mods i listed, and gram light rims/r compound tires, along with a s-AFC i bet u could hit low 14s with a good driver

[sr20de4evr]

yeah probably with some practice, I was really talking to the guy who thought he was going to get low 14's with i/h/e, pulley and cams. Throw some lightweight rims, very sticky tires, clutch/flywheel and an AFC on that and it's certainly possible.

[TeggyLS]

yep, i would like to see it done, hittin low 14s with those mods, and even if u add horsepower it doesnt mean your gonna put it to the ground.

[TeggyLS]

and ya i found the info on the b&m short shifter, seems they have a new version available, but ive seen some iffy remarks about it also. I might just go for the nismo (mossy) s/s . Id sure like the b&m though i have one in my teg and love it, dont know if its worth the risk though, Any one know if the second one is really fixed 100%

[daveshapellSVT]

16's my ass lol you must not know how to drive. I don't know how you drive but everytime i go to the track here in rochester i run consistantly.. ppl use the weather and various condition as excuses for there lack of driving skills... Just by the way you talk i know your driving skills must suck and thats why your car is slow... You do know an afc needs tuning, just throwing it on doesn't give you power.. And tuning with an afc will really do nothing for you unless you have some mods to tune.. when you go to the track what are your 60ft times like?

[sr20de4evr]

1 - I don't drive a spec-v, don't jump to conclusions and start attacking people, especially when it says explicitly in my sig that I drive an SE and my username even has the engine code for the 2.0 that comes in an SE
2 - Everyone I know with a spec-v has run 16's on several occasions
3 - I do know how to drive, in fact I have one of the fastest times there is for a stock SE
4 - I run consistent 2.2 60' times, and that's with the stock 195 craptacular firestones
5 - I know an AFC needs tuning, and you WILL see gains on a stock spec if you tune it right, but even so that's not what I was talking about, I said an AFC on top of i/h/e, cams, pulleys, rims, tires, clutch, and flywheel

[Evo VII Lover]

Originally Posted by daveshapellSVT

16's my ass lol you must not know how to drive. I don't know how you drive but everytime i go to the track here in rochester i run consistantly.. ppl use the weather and various condition as excuses for there lack of driving skills... Just by the way you talk i know your driving skills must suck and thats why your car is slow... You do know an afc needs tuning, just throwing it on doesn't give you power.. And tuning with an afc will really do nothing for you unless you have some mods to tune.. when you go to the track what are your 60ft times like?

hey, i live in rochester NY also =0.

[TeggyLS]

Originally Posted by daveshapellSVT

16's my ass lol you must not know how to drive. I don't know how you drive but everytime i go to the track here in rochester i run consistantly.. ppl use the weather and various condition as excuses for there lack of driving skills... Just by the way you talk i know your driving skills must suck and thats why your car is slow... You do know an afc needs tuning, just throwing it on doesn't give you power.. And tuning with an afc will really do nothing for you unless you have some mods to tune.. when you go to the track what are your 60ft times like?

I believe i said afc with the mods i listed, maybe read the post mroe carefully. And even on a stock 2.5L sentra you will see some gains from tuning with a afc. Who said an afc didnt need tuning? it is an air fuel computer so obviously you will need to adjust it throughout the rpms.

Yes, conditions play a big factor, obviously if its 40 degrees celcius your engine is gonna be sucking in hot air and if its 15 its gonna be sucking in colder air, Yes heat obviously plays a factor. Second altitude, in higher areas the air is thinner, and in lower areas the air is denser. Engines like air, think about it.

Everyone has there best times at a track, yes its cool to brag about you one or 2 killer runs, but lets face it, your not running your fastest time consitently. Look at drag racers, They hit that one record time over a year, the rest of the time they may not even be close to that one record time. The sentras shifter action isnt exactly the smoothest nor is it that rev happy, adding a flywheel/clutch, motor mounts short throw shifter and a balance shaft removal kit, will let u shift alot more precisly and the flywheel and balance shaft kit will let your engine rev alot more freely. Maybe keep you ahead of those high revving honda engines at the end.

Don't go thinking your the best driver and everyone sucks. There will always be someone there to whoop your ass. You seem to have a very big ego, assuming we dont know whats going on. You are very ill informed.

[daveshapellSVT]

eh, i'll findout when the rain stops and i have a day off to go to the track, but i know my sentra will never come near 16 seconds... i know i will run mid to low 15's.. i'm aiming for 15.2 cause thats what sport compact magazine ran... So obviously its possible cause its already been done...

[TeggyLS]

we know its been done, it all depends on the conditons that day, your altitude, your skill, track conditions among other variables. they post there best time, they ran one 15.2 doesnt mean there average was 15.2

[daveshapellSVT]

eh, i'll findout when the rain stops and i have a day off to go to the track, but i know my sentra will never come near 16 seconds... i know i will run mid to low 15's.. i'm aiming for 15.2 cause thats what sport compact magazine ran... So obviously its possible cause its already been done... And from my experience with tuning cars, your not gonna gain crap with just an afc.. you think you can tune better than the engineers from nissan.. sure you can add fuel but thats just gonna give you shitty gas mileage when you have no way of getting it out fast enough nor getting any extra air in... Trust me, my friends and i have been working on his GSR which we are tunning with the aem ems.. On top of that i had a moded Z24 with all the bolt ons and the only thing the afc really did was making it run smoother cause it was running rich from the intake and exhaust system i had.. there were no power gains.. its really a waste of money unless you get it to make your car run properly unless you are forced induction and really could benefit from tuning out some fuel and air...

[sr20de4evr]

Just because you didn't get a gain on your Z24 that means you won't get a gain on a spec? They're completely different cars, people have gotten gains from just an afc. It has nothing to do with being able to tune "better" than the people at nissan, because they didn't tune it for performance, they tuned it for economy. You can gain 5+whp just from turning the distributor and advancing the timing on the sr20. Why didn't they do it from the factory? Because you need to run 91+ octane in the car if you do it (or you risk detonation), and they didn't want their base economy car to be forced to use premium because that would cut into sales.

Nissan isn't a pro-drag team trying to squeeze every horsepower out of the car, they built it as a cheap econobox with a decent amount of power, there are plenty of things you can do to gain a little more, redoing the fuel map is one of them.

I still think you're expecting too much with a 15.2 on your first trip, but I guess time will tell right? And yes that's possible on a stock spec, one of my friends got a 14.9 on a stock spec, but that doesn't mean you, or anyone else can repeat it.

[illbeatyourhonda]

Originally Posted by daveshapellSVT

Also the upgraded clutch won't do as much as you think.. it will just engage harsher, and be stronger. as for the flywheel i'd hold off on that unless you autocross or something cause the rev limiter already comes up quick thanks to close gearing and a low redline.. I don't see how those three things would benfit more than over 20whp with bolt ons..

I just want to jump in and say that a good clutch makes a huge diff. A stock clutch is more prone to slip under stress, more then you'll imagine. A clutch will always slip, thats part of there job. and aftermarket one like a nice ACT will slip less because of the material the disc is made of, and the design of the pressure plate. An upgraded clutch does wonders on vehicles. If they didn't then why wouldn't drag racers use stock clutches on a 400whp civic or eclipse. If you knew how to manage the small amount of power you've got then you would understand why an aftermarket clutch is so valuable. I can say I've gain close to 1 sec at the strip with a new clutch on certain vehicles. so I know personally that they make a diff.

[illbeatyourhonda]

Originally Posted by daveshapellSVT

eh, i'll findout when the rain stops and i have a day off to go to the track, but i know my sentra will never come near 16 seconds... i know i will run mid to low 15's.. i'm aiming for 15.2 cause thats what sport compact magazine ran... So obviously its possible cause its already been done...

When you hit mid 12's give me a call, I'll be at the track with my sentra to run ya. and a gsr come on now, really, a gsr. need i say anymore. no offense to you or you friends but honda doesnt have any good motors except the s2000 motor. hondas are only designed to have the amount of power given to them, torgueless bastard motors. damn i hate hondas with a passion. sorry about my rant. anyway if used correctly afc's are an excellent item to obtain. on an all motor car they help, but not like a turbo or nitro car. but either way they help. smoothing out your power curve make the cars more efficient thus making the vehicle quicker in all aspects. blah I love tunning cars. not bolting items on theres a diff bolting is bolting tunning takes time and knowledge. i have time and i learn as i go. goodtimes

[TeggyLS]

well hondas k20 engine is nothing to scoff at, take the head from the rsx and take... i believe the crv block, do some parts swapping and u have a 4 litre big block much like our own, but with vtec. turbo that thing and u have some serious power.

Yep like i said a clutch with do wonders, and exchange that heavy flywheel for a nice light aftermarket piece and your off to the races.