Hummers

[ExtreemATV]

Oh theres a new study that says you are 11% more likely to die in an SUV in an accident than a car...

were did you hear this?? If they are talking about the Bronco well the Bronco was the worst SUV ever designed. Now they have safety features that some cars don’t have. With the high risk of a role over they have to take all the necessary percussions. I don’t know about in America but in Australia Ford have brought out a new SUV that is extremely safe.

[mason_RsX]

I saw a few secs of good day live while I was working... There was a study on it. They said the reasons were easy rollover, and general aggressive, and careless driving from drivers who think they are secure in their SUV

[lamehonda]

It has been proven many times that SUVs are more dangerous because of their mass hurtling around at high speeds. If a larger car is safer then why is it that everyone isn't killed when they roll their ferrari at 100 mph. That would certainly kill the occupant of an SUV. However, in a head on collision the SUV would hold up better. But, it could kill the occupant of the other car who wouldn't have died had you been driving a miata.

[ExtreemATV]

If a larger car is safer then why is it that everyone isn't killed when they roll their ferrari at 100 mph.

i is highly difficult to roll over a car that is low to the ground, it is just basic physics. An SUV will roll over much easier than eny other car because they are high and they are not all that wide. this has been a major issue and car desingers are taking this into account.

There was a study on it. They said the reasons were easy rollover, and general aggressive, and careless driving from drivers who think they are secure in their SUV

once i was flicking through the channels, i was drawn to it (me being a 4WD fennatic) and they were talking about the roll over and the risks and what they do to solve them, and with the recent descovery that SUV can rollover at 50km/h. Car desingers were made to make the cars wider and lower. if you were to look at the new SUV's you will see how that has been acomplished. a major thing that the SUV's had to loose was ground clearence. VW and Porsche have brought out a brilient idea which makes the car lower at high speeds and rise when traveling at a slow speed.

[MARS]

Originally Posted by landyacht

I say if you have the money and want a toy and do those things to it, power to you.

My

I agree 100%

[engineer]

Originally Posted by ExtreemATV

i have had my head under the hood of a 4WD all my life if it was my old mans Musso, Or my cousins Jeep, or my uncles Land Cruser, and i have even worked on a R32 skyline GTSt

ummm if u are so smart u would know a r32 Gtst is a rwd

[YogsVR4]

I'm all for people getting what they want.

I laugh at the communism style - get what you need and no more.

[Ground Rat]

My pickup gets about 10 mpg, so am I "hurting the environment"?

[Jimster]

Originally Posted by Ground Rat

My pickup gets about 10 mpg, so am I "hurting the environment"?

Depends on the Emissions, but you are draining fossil fuels, which pisses people like me off.....

I don't buy all this Greenhouse effect crap though, if anything it's getting colder, not warmer.

[ExtreemATV]

ummm if u are so smart u would know a r32 Gtst is a rwd

of course i knew that it was a rwd, i was just saying that i have worked on it.

[engineer]

Originally Posted by ExtreemATV

of course i knew that it was a rwd, i was just saying that i have worked on it.

32 gtst isnt a great car.... unless its the one down here with the 400hp rb26 in it... drift monsta

[ExtreemATV]

drift monsta

it is especially with ist All Wheel Steering meaning that you can hold onto the drift for longer

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by ExtreemATV

it is especially with ist All Wheel Steering meaning that you can hold onto the drift for longer

or not...do you think nissan put those systems so you can oversteer?


and do you still belive that a RWD or AWD setups get better mileage than FWD, las time you did not answer directly so lets hear it

[ExtreemATV]

yes nissan did put them in the R32 not shure about the others but the set up isn't like the honda it is different
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with a FWD car they are pritty much the same as the AWD and the RWD are the ones that waist the most petrol, the main reason that you hear that the SUV's waisting petrol is because 1/2 of them are part time 4WD with a huge engine which makes it a part time RWD. you don't normally hear an AWD drinking petrol.

[Jimster]

Originally Posted by ExtreemATV

yes nissan did put them in the R32 not shure about the others but the set up isn't like the honda it is different
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with a FWD car they are pritty much the same as the AWD and the RWD are the ones that waist the most petrol, the main reason that you hear that the SUV's waisting petrol is because 1/2 of them are part time 4WD with a huge engine which makes it a part time RWD. you don't normally hear an AWD drinking petrol.

Yeah right..... So how do you explain the sudden increase in fuel consumption when I used to flick my dads Pajero (Quadcam 3.5 V6) from RWD to AWD??? Sorry, but that makes absoultely no sense whatsoever- The engine needs to work harder when in AWD- so how on earth does it consume less fuel?