WIP: Custom Designed Hot Rod, need crits

[bonzelite]

mike, i went ahead and decided to give you another lesson by example. of course, my quick sketch, my version, is what came to me at the moment. the variations are endless. you can snaz it up however you wish. i want to give you an idea of what you can do with your linework. i went into rendering, with some extras for 'food for thought's' sake. enjoy, mate:

[mike@af]

Intresting Chad. I guess I will try to fix it, guess what I found? My Drawing, not packed away.

[mike@af]

I have done a tad bit of work on the large view body, the rear ellipse still looks a bit off.

[bonzelite]

mike, consider these thoughts:

when doing elipses, think about the whole wheel. you are only looking at the outermost elipse. this is not helping you. by the time you put the metal rim part in the wheels you are attempting, there is no rim: look at how tiny you are drawing the elipses. you must think of the WHOLE wheel. rim, lip, spoke face, the whole thing. you are not considering this.

this is a low rider? your car is sitting LOW on the suspension. very low. uuhh -extremely low. and the rims are tiny. so this is a low rider with 12-inch gold spoke wheels?

your elipses are diamond-like in shape. but real wheels are round. when drawing elipses in a box, you must create a subtle and gentle arc all the way around. do not 'connect the dots.' --arc the dots.

you may want to consider actually drawing an establishing horizon and then projecting construction lines/rays from a common vanishing point. you are still not doing this -not literally, not intuitively. and this is why you will continue to draw disappointing elipses.

[mike@af]

The front wheel is 15.5" the rear is 18.75" Its supposed to be a low hot rod, not a mexican lowrider.

These fucking ellipses are driving me crazy. Where the hell is a damn template when you need it.

I started making constructions lines and such, very light, so they are hard to see. Then I did draw a 3D box and made arcs, crappy arcs.

As far as vanishing points, I think everything has a vanishing point, but those drawings always look like they were photographed with a fisheye lens and look ugly as hell. Correct?

[bonzelite]

take a breather.

do me this: get out some paper and just throw out sketches of circles and elipses. nevermind for what reason. just loosen up on the paper. have no agenda other than to loosen up.

post what you do so i can see it. overcome the fear of it. you're too tense. i can see it in your lines.

[mike@af]

Originally Posted by bonzelite

take a breather.

do me this: get out some paper and just throw out sketches of circles and elipses. nevermind for what reason. just loosen up on the paper. have no agenda other than to loosen up.

post what you do so i can see it. overcome the fear of it. you're too tense. i can see it in your lines.

I just read this, but for the past 20 minutes I have loosened up and just started throwing down new lines. I also drew in wheels. Would you like me to take a snap shot?

[mike@af]

Heres some poor updates, done in about 30 min. I just sketched out some rims, and a really loose grill. Ellipses are still not correctly angled with the vehicle.

Sorry for the dark pic, all the lamps are packed away for the move.

[tokes99]

cool project, i definitely agree with bonzelite, take a step back to distance yourself from and come back to it. another thing that might be throwing you off it that the body is not straight, the left fenders (front & rear) are not aligned with the body.

i think you have been working on this for a while and are anxious to see it finished. you might want to do more sketches so you can focus on what exactly you want to do.

how far are you with the building the model?

[KustmAce]

Ya, definately work on the perspectives, and the wheel spokes.

[mike@af]

Originally Posted by tokes99

cool project, i definitely agree with bonzelite, take a step back to distance yourself from and come back to it. another thing that might be throwing you off it that the body is not straight, the left fenders (front & rear) are not aligned with the body.

i think you have been working on this for a while and are anxious to see it finished. you might want to do more sketches so you can focus on what exactly you want to do.

how far are you with the building the model?

The fenders arent aligned on my drawing, or a real hot rod? Funny thing is, I draw hot rods from reference all the time and they look decent, just when I go from my mind they look a little screwy.

Yes, I am quite anxious to get it done. Normally I make about 15 minute sketches, or spend several hours drawing from reference.

I am only about 1/2 through with the chassis unfortunately, transmissions is about 85% complete, and the differential is about 93% complete. But I have spent close to 800+ hours planning/designing/drafting, and about 150+ hours building. What takes a lot of time is designing the smallest details, like door, hood, and trunk latches that need to function properly.

Originally Posted by KustmAce

Ya, definately work on the perspectives, and the wheel spokes.

Whats wrong with my wheel spokes? I know the spacing isnt perfect, but I just threw them on to see what they'd look like.

[mike@af]

Another old drawing, different car.

[Turbo Monster]

Holy crap mike, I love that one!! the last one.

I'm exactly the opposite of you, I can't draw from reference, but I kick ass at drawing from my mind...weird.

[mike@af]

Welp...Heres another drawing, different view, same car with slight modifications. Hows this one Chad? Still needs work before its transferred to the final.

How easy is it to do blue and silvery-white (HoK Snow Ivory if any of you paint) reflections with marker?

[Jeep_Rubicon]

The inner part of the rear rim doesn't look like it is flowing with the ellipse of the outter rim and the tire. It's good overall. Keep up the good work.