240 or VR-4?

[turbo2nr]

you 240sx people are soo 1 sided only belving your car are the best when its is not the case..
that calcutor is off by alot i put in the weight and hp of my car form the factor my car does 15.8 stock the damm thing said i would be doing hi 16's way off..i dont see where you can get a rb25det motor for $750.. dats seems why off more like $1700 at best..and the cost of instalation and also hows realibility on a rb motor? where are you gona find parts when some simple shit breaks? my nismo was doing mid 13's with his 240sx and that was worked alot i pretty sure he spent close to 5g' for his 13 sec car..
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[turbo2nr]

haha more proof.. muahahha
http://www.daveblack.net/asp/3000GT.asp
all boltons=low 13 sec car...
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[musicsurfman]

Did I Say Rb25det? No I Said Rb25de..... Big Difference Buddy.

I Hate My 240 I Wish I Would Have Gotten A 240z, And I Know My Car Is Anything..... But I Do Know That The 3000gts Are Crap. The Rb Is Just As Reliable As The Sr If Not More.

They Way You Spend Your Money Is More Important That How Much You Spend. I Know Tons Of People That Spends Thousands Of Dollars To Get The Same Results As Someone Who Sped Alot Less.

And That Car Has Doubled The Boost Pressure... So The Reliability Of Those Turbos Are Cut In Half If Not More.

[turbo2nr]

im tired of aruging with you man i was just trying to poing out vr4 arnt carp.. but you go ahead an believe what you want man.. 240SX RULES ALL CARS!! they are the best freaking car ever made and the sr20det and rb series motors are un rivled..(j/k) hopefully a vr-4, supra, rx-7, or other hi proformance turbo cars spank you sense less one day.. theny may be you'll cange your 1 track mind..
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[musicsurfman]

Dude Did I Ever Say The 240sx Was The Best..... Hell If You Go Back Through All My Posts I Praise A Ton Of Cars. The 3000gt Is Not One Of Them Though. Supras Are Ok But They Are Heavy Also, The Rx-7 Is A Awesome Piece Of Machinery (if I Had The Cash I Would Own One), I Love Scoobies But Yet Again Too Expensive, And My List Goes On..... But Between A 240sx And Vr4 I'll Take A 240 Anyday Of The Week.

[publicenemy137]

if I was rich and had a lot of money I'd take the VR4, it's pretty damn fast stock and looks hella awesome. But I'm not rich, and VR-4 is a lot less reliable than the 240. the 3000gt if you have plenty of money to throw away, b/c you will be spending a lot on maintenance and buying ew transmissions for that car.

[rps13freak]

I dont remember anyone saying that the 240sx was superior to all other cars. But it is a good begginer car and a good car to have fun in. And plus you will spend alot less money on maintaining it then a fat ass vr-4. So as you said "believe what you want and hopefully a supra, rx-7, or other hi proformance turbo cars spank you sense less one day.. then maybe you'll cange your 1 track mind.."
And if you like the vr-4 so much, then why dont you go over to that forum and talk about it. Dont come here and start arguments about how it is a superior car.

[Chuki_breath]

lets see....the money u save on buying a 240 compared to a vr-4 could help make it possibly just as quick. I dont know how much each car is that he is looking at so i dont know how much he would be saving.

and why do u think hes rich because he wants a vr-4....if your rich that peice of shit car is definently not on the list of things to buy.

and doesnt everybody like to think that there car of choice is "superior" to others (in a reasonable way). Were not saying our 240's would smoke ferraris are we??? It all comes down to preferances. but the 240 has some great kills for how it compares to other cars am i correct?

i mean there has to be a reason to why all of us 240 owners think that its superior right???? Maybe because it truly is a fun lil car to drive that has very high potential. That first time you go out and really drive the car hard...it just sucks you in and makes you its bitch and instant fan of it. And it's affordable for kids/young adults right of the bat. I dont know how many times iv been cruising down the highway and am like o shit im going 100mph...feels like your floating along at 70mph.
i dunno everything i have experienced with a 240 i have loved so maybe im biased but owell. sorry for the ranting.

[LaYzIeNoY]

a 240sx with 5000 worth of mods could so beat a VR-4 the difference in aftermarket support is so big that the 5000 won't get the VR-4 too much
VR-4 are great cars don't get me wrong my dad has one, my friend has one, and my bestfriend soo wanted one he researched the shiet out of it but ended up getting a 300zx don't ask me why i don't know
the 240 would be a better choice personally, i think espcially if your only 16 just because of cost difference in parts/servicing/insurance etc., I smoked my friends VR-4 in my 240

His VR-4: intake, exhuast3", injectors,FMIC, and turbo upgrades,
My 240 :intake, 3"exhuast, FMIC, Safc2, and sr20det (red)there is a difference in power between the reds and blacks (just a note)

And turbo2nr of course we're one sided your in our forum and your flaming us bout loving the 240sx

now here the big thing about the decision between getting the 240sx and the VR-4, How much do you really want each car? because i dont know about your area but its hard for me and mine to locate a decent VR-4 where i live, so you should also take rarity into account, i dunno if that VR-4 is always gonna be there for you

why is it that in so many threads there are ppl b1tching back and forth just eating up space and not helping the person.....

[musicsurfman]

Hey I helped out.... then we have the 3000gt guy going off on me about something he probably has never experienced. At least I'm talking about something I actually touched and worked on....

Which reminds me the vr-4 is the biggest bitch to work on in comparison to the 240sx.... I think the only other thing That I have worked on that compares to it is the ford probe GT or the Nissan Z32 300ZX NA and TT.

[turbo2nr]

my defence is that ya'll are soem freaking 1 track newbies that need to open your minds and realize the freaking world isnt full of sr20det powered 240sx..
flaming would be me saying 240sx suck ass, they are a piece of shit that cannot be turned, and they are slow.. all i did in this post was show you the other side of this guys question you people gave him facts in the 240sx i gave him on the vr-4 o0o btw my neighbor has a 95 vr-4 and i helped him many times on the freaking car..
for the older members that do not post in here b/c of snooby newbies like you know me and know my love for the 240sx once again my user name was "sr20det2nr" for all you newbies but this was b4 your time..the 240sx is a fast car but it takes cash.. i seen it with my own eyes 5'g into a 240sx will not get you better then a hi13's time slip.. all of you who think its cost 2'g to drop a sr into a 240sx are wrong! i priced it, its an easy 4'g job.. and even after that simple blot ones wont get you better then low 14s and not more then 250-270whp thats when the small t-25 craps out.. so all of you who clam to have 300+hp form a sr with a stock t-25 are full of it, may shops in nyc has proven this, and its all over the internet..you newbies come here thinking you know all and no one can tell you anything thats why all the old members dont post here some of the pople who know most about 240sx refuse to post in here b/c of newbies that flame flame flame.. i was trying to educated you on the vr-4 not say the 240sx is bad..b/c its not but screw you people.. u'll learn about cars on your own...
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[publicenemy137]

well if you have a stock 240 and a stock 3000gt vr-4, if you put 5k in each car of course the 3000gt vr-4 is going to be faster. It is much faster stock, but it is also a much more expensive car. Now lets say if you had 13k to work with, that would buy you a 3000gt with a few simple bolt ons. With a 240sx, you can get for 3k than another 10k for mods. 240 will easily kill the 3000gt if you look at it that way. And sr20det's pricing varies, just depends where you get it from. My friend got his swap done for $2,500 b/c he and a friend both installed it in themselves. He has put 8gs into the car, and has beat m3s and integra Type Rs. He hasn't raced a VR-4 but I bet he would beat one.

It's all just preference. Personally I like the 3000gt vr-4 more. I'd take it if I had a lot of money to spend, it's much more aggressive and sporty than the 240sx, not to mention more unique. It is heavy though and costs loads on insurance, not to mention bad reliability. So if I was in your situation DSM, choose what you want. It's all just preference and don't go by just what other people say.

[turbo2nr]

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[youngmanvr4]

turbo2nr, if you go to the 3000GT forum you will see i started a thread there minutes after i started this one to get both sides of the story. And thanks for talkin good about the VR-4.

For you all, the question was; should i get the 240 now and get the VR-4 later or buy the VR-4 in a year then when i get the money buy the 240 and use the 240 as my daily-driver/high hp car and fastest a the 1/4 mile and have the VR-4 for the "summer" car or the car i drive when its really nice out. Not what car is better.

And you publicenemy137...you just rock...what you said is what i'm going to do...i'm going to get the VR-4 first. But i just wanted to hear the opinions of others first. Just incase if you knew something i didn't (witch is pretty had to out smart me on the 3000GT/VR-4) i wasn't going to go do something dumb and not be happy.

The 240 will be a step down from my 3000GT i have now but when i get the VR-4 i'm going to mod it some then after that i'll get the 240 and mod it like crazy and then it will be a step up from the 3000GT i have now. But will be on the same level as a VR-4 because its about style from then on. The 240 will be a get out of my way look or if you dont i'll eat you alive look. And the VR-4 will be a sporty and outspoken car but yet not share it power to the world...but whats really under the hood is a power monster (pretty much a sleeper type of car). Thanks for you input, if you still have more please share!

[91300zxtt]

Originally Posted by musicsurfman

Which reminds me the vr-4 is the biggest bitch to work on in comparison to the 240sx.... I think the only other thing That I have worked on that compares to it is the ford probe GT or the Nissan Z32 300ZX NA and TT.

hey now. lets not be talking about the 300zx that way. as you can see i had a 91 tt never had any problems. i sold it because of college money btw. next car is 240 haha. but please man leave the 300 out of this AMAZING car. i do however agree with the reliability of the 3000gt being terrible, horrible transmissions.