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Old 06-25-2004, 07:35 PM
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IMO, an amendment needs to be added that says if you commit a crime, you waive your right to fair treatment. Stealing a car and running from the police is different than say getting a speeding ticket and going about the business like a normal human. If you steal a car, run from the police, damage other people's property, and put lives in danger, then you don't deserve a slap on the wrist, you get a kick in the head or similar.

wtf is your problem?

Yeah if the guy stole a car, it would make sense to worsen his punishment, (i.e. longer jail time etc) but thats a job for the judge. The purpose of domestic police forces is to maintain civil order, NOT to decide justice for the people they arrest. The courts are supposed to be the brains, and police only the hands.

Just because a guy is running from arrest is not a reason to beat him. I mean later on, yeah sure corporal punishment is okay, but not out in public at the discretion of a low-income, low-education patrol officer. There's a reason that your town has a police bureau AND a court. That's because the police aren't supposed to beat a guy to death just because they think it's more fair that way

I bet you wouldn't be so happy to see a no-fair-treatment amendment someday if you're arrested for antipatriotism, and the guys who come to pick you up fuckin beat you in the head. That's just stupid, dude.
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Old 06-25-2004, 07:39 PM
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Re: Don't f**k with the LAPD

I saw that, totally uncalled for. The guy ran, but then surrendered without putting up a fight, and got thrashed for it. Not cool.
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Re: Don't f**k with the LAPD

i think the key is to not do illegal things. if you infringe the rights of others why should protect your rights. i can't agree with the beating but at the same time i don't feel sorry for the bastard.
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Re: Don't f**k with the LAPD

It sounds like some people are forgetting the "innocent until proven guilty" rule.

The courts were around long before the police. It's not an officers job to punish a suspect; that role belongs to the court.

There is a term (which i convieniently can't remember) for the mindset officers are in after a pursuit. Basicly, when a pursuit has just ended, the officer's urge to just beat the shit out of the suspect for making them endanger everyone on the roads is quite high. If the police were free to punish the suspect I would be the first one out of the country.
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It's not an officers job to punish a suspect,
Nicely nailed the issue here,Sean, thank you.

These clowns are not fit to be lawmen.Quite apart from the noble sentiments of the law,if they are too stupid to realise that at the end of a lengthy car chase there is likely to be a news chopper following their every move,then they are too stupid to be enforcement officers.


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IMO, an amendment needs to be added that says if you commit a crime, you waive your right to fair treatment.
That's exactly as the law stands.You report a crime to the police[or they detect it happening],they apprehend a suspect and bring him before the courts to determine whetheer or not a crime was committed,and if so,whether the person on trial committed it.

In civilised countries the police are not employed to smack the bejeezus out of a person on th the ground particularly when it is obvious that they are not in any personal danger from that suspect.
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Old 06-25-2004, 08:38 PM
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Nicely nailed the issue here,Sean, thank you.

These clowns are not fit to be lawmen.Quite apart from the noble sentiments of the law,if they are too stupid to realise that at the end of a lengthy car chase there is likely to be a news chopper following their every move,then they are too stupid to be enforcement officers.




That's exactly as the law stands.You report a crime to the police[or they detect it happening],they apprehend a suspect and bring him before the courts to determine whetheer or not a crime was committed,and if so,whether the person on trial committed it.

In civilised countries the police are not employed to smack the bejeezus out of a person on th the ground particularly when it is obvious that they are not in any personal danger from that suspect.
I'm talking about if a person is caught in the act on a camera, in front of an officer, or similar, that they should get a swift kick to the balls. If not witnessed by law enforcement or others is a totally different situation where a good blow to stun a person would not be needed unless the person is resisting arrest and trying to attack an officer. He did deserve at least one hit for stealing a damn Camry, I'm sure that there were better things around.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Don't f**k with the LAPD

Cops don't sentence the guilty, judges do. That's why we have judges. It's not that hard to comprehend. We don't live in the 1860s anymore. Cops don't punish, that's not part of their job.
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I don't have a problem with the police getting rough on a criminal who's fighting back. This guy was surrendering. Those cops need to be tried - convicted and spend time in the big house
I agree. But I also think anyone who is running from the police needs to get a few pops.
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I agree. But I also think anyone who is running from the police needs to get a few pops.
If that's the only way to apprehend them, then yea. But in this case, the "pops" from the officer's flashlight was uncalled for. He was down already.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Don't f**k with the LAPD

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I'm talking about if a person is caught in the act on a camera, in front of an officer, or similar, that they should get a swift kick to the balls.
HA HA HA HA! I read that and burst out laughing!!!!
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Re: Don't f**k with the LAPD

why is it always the LAPD?

i think given the size and reputation that newyork would have higher uncalled for police brutality. or even new jersey. so why is the spot light always on LA?
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Because we here in NY we NYers say, "been there done that". The NY cops had a problem a while back as well but so far it looks like they finally got the message. I think the last major problem we had was when the cops beat up that guy that was having an asthma attack and they thought he was going for a gun when it was just a inhaller.
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Is the flashlight made of steel or plastic. If plastic then the guy will be fine but steel I hope they gave him some asprins.
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