Another pair of McLaren yet ! But which ones ;-)

[BMW V12]

Originally Posted by cabrio92

I am sure of nothing, the red one looks exteriorly exactly the same than #073 but
1) the plate is not he same

hmmmm , very strange..... but the plates are both from "geneve" in swiss , because of the GE in the plates.....

Originally Posted by hurstg01

it seems that the red one is the same as 071

#071 is historic orange / yellow........

was it just a mistake or do you know something we don't know???

^_^

[Peloton25]

Here's my take on it - a different license plate is not enough evidence to claim either of these are different cars.

Dan Kennedy's orange F1 has worn two different plates in the photos I've seen. Carl Beal's F1 has also worn two different plates in photos that I have.

I'm going to go with "100% positive" that the car in the front is #073. I believe its the only short tail F1 that features the enhanced high downforce kit with the louvers over the front wheels. I also think those wheels are unique to #073. Unless someone has a #073 twin (which I highly doubt) there's no way that is a different car. The Christie's auction description made it sound like those items were exclusive to this car.

As for the car behind, I suspect that its #020 - the car formerly thought to be #002. Again, I can't explain the plate difference, but I don't really think you have to. I will mention that I have scoured the web for a photo of Tony Smith, #020's reported owner, to match up with any of the men seen in that photo and I haven't found one yet. I don't give up easily though.

Now are there any more photos from this incredible encounter? I assume there must be, because no one would take just one photo of that scene. Also, no one could possibly read the plate on the second F1 from this shot and I doubt it's something one would think to make a note of.

BTW: Awesome shot Phil - I love seeing these cars being used for their intended purpose - driving!

>8^)
ER

[Mr. Bernoulli]

Originally Posted by hurstg01

saw last Friday a yellow Mclaren on the back of a trailer going through Chobham, probably on the way to the new HQ to get fixed / serviced?.........

Either it was coming from the M3 or from Chobham test track.

Originally Posted by Peloton25

Lots of true stuff

[drPhibes]

In some european countries (e.g. Belgium) the car gets new license plates when the car is registered to a new owner. If that is the case with switzerland, it may be the reason whe the plates differ...

[cabrio92]

Hello,

thank you for your helping comments.

For the plates, after a quick search, these are temporary plates in both cases for a temporary use in Switzerland with a number in white on red.
On september 2003, I red the digit "2" so I can think that the plates before the sell at Christies were dated from 2002 and this pic was taken before.

Peloton > he took some pics but he lost them few time ago What I ask me : what two McLaren do at Austria/Germany border ? If they were gone to any meeting, event, press test or track, we should able to find pics !

Ciao
Phil

[jcsaleen]

Amazing shot you rarely ever seen 2 Mclarens together. 1 day I want to see all 5 Lm's Reunited that would be amazing. on the pic!

[cche2052]

Originally Posted by Peloton25

As for the car behind, I suspect that its #020 - the car formerly thought to be #002. Again, I can't explain the plate difference, but I don't really think you have to. I will mention that I have scoured the web for a photo of Tony Smith, #020's reported owner, to match up with any of the men seen in that photo and I haven't found one yet. I don't give up easily though.
>8^)
ER

So is that the car that was featured on 5th gear's greatest cars?

[Peloton25]

I certainly believe that it is.

Well lets say that I am certain that the car in the 5th Gear episode wore the '13 MAC' plate. I'm nearly positive that car which wears that plate is chassis #020 now instead of #002. I'm pretty sure that the car in the back of that photo is also #020, regardless of the difference on the license plate. How's that...

>8^)
ER

[jkbon]

Can you post the other photo plz ?

[cche2052]

Originally Posted by Peloton25

I certainly believe that it is.

Well lets say that I am certain that the car in the 5th Gear episode wore the '13 MAC' plate. I'm nearly positive that car which wears that plate is chassis #020 now instead of #002. I'm pretty sure that the car in the back of that photo is also #020, regardless of the difference on the license plate. How's that...

>8^)
ER

Well done, Sherlock.

[Thorst13]

Originally Posted by jcsaleen

Amazing shot you rarely ever seen 2 Mclarens together. 1 day I want to see all 5 Lm's Reunited that would be amazing. on the pic!

Yeah, that would be the day my friend!

[cabrio92]

Hello,

here is a piece of the second pic to show you the plate.



Q : could it be #075 ?

Ciao
Phil

[Peloton25]

Through a good source, I have heard that #075 remains unmolested in its original form, so no, it could not be #075.

I still believe it's #020 and will stick with that until I see information proving otherwise.

>8^)
ER

[cabrio92]

Hello,

interesting peloton, so your source can say it it is a link with Le Chateau d'Yquem in France and where is located this #075 ?

Thanks
Phil