Criticisms on the 5th Gen Prelude

[GTR UnLtD]

I understand the weight to power ratio, but some ppl are going to far for weight reduction: Pulling out backseats, taking A/C off, Taking power steering out, and other things out of car to make it "Lighter".

I tell you what, i wouldnt do all those.

[SRV BOY]

Originally Posted by del

here's a list of honda/acura cars that could beat a prelude other than the S2000 and nsx:

rsx type s
integra type r (and better handling)
cl-s 6 speed
04 TL
03/04 accord coupe V6 6 speed

not tryin to dog on the prelude, it IS one of honda's best cars IMO. and in its prime years, yeah, the prelude was certainly towards the top of the honda line speed wise and handling wise. but not anymore.

I stand corrected the only cars that can beat the lude is the NSX, 2000 and accord. The rsx-s is debateable. Definately not the type r. And their handling stinks compared to the lude. I have the lude and have driven the type r. When you are speeding with the type r you are holding the steering wheel with both hands. With the lude its a breeze to handle. Keep in mind the lude does 0-60 in 6.7 and 1/4 mile in 15.10. The type cannot do that. Ive beaten one in a race no prob

[del]

Originally Posted by SRV BOY

I stand corrected the only cars that can beat the lude is the NSX, 2000 and accord. The rsx-s is debateable. Definately not the type r. And their handling stinks compared to the lude. I have the lude and have driven the type r. When you are speeding with the type r you are holding the steering wheel with both hands. With the lude its a breeze to handle. Keep in mind the lude does 0-60 in 6.7 and 1/4 mile in 15.10. The type cannot do that. Ive beaten one in a race no prob

good argument, i've seen straightline races go both ways. but i will stand by my argument that the integra type r being a better handling car than the prelude. being easier to drive does not automatically constitute better handling. the ITR suspension is more sport-tuned than the relatively softer and more cush suspension of the prelude. not to mention a shorter wheelbase for the ITR. this and the ITR is also lighter and steering a tad bit more responsive, making it a more agile car. i'll give the prelude, particularly the SH, the advantage on long-winded and stretched cornering. but the ITR will have a definate advantage on road courses, such as auto-xing where there are tighter, and more abrupt turns. in these instances, a tighter suspension and lighter weight and tighter steering give the ITR an advantage over the prelude. i've also driven the ITR, and have had the opportunity to throw it around a little. and IMO, it's just an tighter and more agile feeling car than the heavier prelude.

no question the prelude is easily one of the best handling cars on the road, for the price and being FWD. but have to give credit to the ITR.

[ludeness321]

Don't listen to all the stupid put-downs on the Lude. I own 2 and I will admit that the arent and probably never be a race car, or an hp monster even when modified. They also will probably never compete with the likes of Supras, Skylines, RX7's, etc. But thats no reason to bag on them. They are a bit heavy, but that add to the secure feelin while ur cruisin. Here is what's hot and what's not about the lude:

HOT: the classy, clean body style, especially 5th gens, handling like non other, who ever told you dat Civ's handle better is a freakin idiot, good torque wit da AWS, and its a cool car to have when every other kid the block has either a Civic, or an Accord.

NOT: The only problem i had wit my Lude was it was pricey, and I would go as far as sayin it was overpriced.

[SRV BOY]

take a lude to 200km/h on the highway and take a turn at 60km/h and do the same with the type r. You will notice that the lude will feel way better. the type r is too light, which is a disadvantage, if you look at the german cars like bmw/mercedes the have amazing handling and they are heavy cars.

[SRV BOY]

Even though they are rwd, they are still heavy cars with awesome handling. Weight is not a huge factor like everyone makes it out to be

[del]

Originally Posted by SRV BOY

take a lude to 200km/h on the highway and take a turn at 60km/h and do the same with the type r. You will notice that the lude will feel way better. the type r is too light, which is a disadvantage, if you look at the german cars like bmw/mercedes the have amazing handling and they are heavy cars.

like i said before, being easier to drive doesn't constitute being the better handling car. do a sharp 60km/h righthand turn, then immediately turn the wheel the complete opposite and make a sharp 60km/h left turn maintaining a constant speed, i will assure you that you'll have a better result in an ITR than in a prelude.

just to point out, look at the realtime ITR and rsx's, they'll pull on all the other cars, including bmw, through the turns. not so much on the straightaways, but certainly they have their strengths in the turns. and these are more factory cars than you think, they're not completely stripped down and modified race cars.

[Prelewd]

Most of you are talking stock for stock cars.. but who really keeps their car stock anymore? I think the tegs (itrs and RSXs included) have the advantage in the aftermarket. There's a reason you can probably count all the famous prelude race cars on one hand.

ATTS is only good for the prelude in stock form.

Last I checked, this was a page about criticisms on the 5th gen prelude, and it didn't come with 4WS as mentioned on the first page. The only other bad thing I can think of about the 5th gen prelude right now is that it's not made anymore.

[SRV BOY]

I just wonder if you own a lude or a type r, the car handles better bottom line. I dont know what handling means to you. Maybe you should do a google search for handling or something. Lude is faster better and more rare

[del]

Originally Posted by SRV BOY

I just wonder if you own a lude or a type r, the car handles better bottom line. I dont know what handling means to you. Maybe you should do a google search for handling or something. Lude is faster better and more rare

are you talkin to me?

i owned a prelude type sh for 5 years before i traded it for my audi this past february. i am FULLY aware of the prelude's handling capabilities and dont' even start to imply that i don't know what makes a good handling car. you're telling me to do a google search, why don't YOU do a google search. i'll do the same. what kind of experience do you even have with an ITR???

i'm not talking out of my ass SRV BOY, i'm not saying all this crap just for argument's sake. i'm telling you from experience. even though i have more experience in a prelude, i have had plenty of time behind the wheel of an ITR and am quite familiar with the ITR's handling capabilities.



and FYI, i DID do a google search and here are some figures. and i've put the source in parantheses so you know i'm not bullshittin you.

the integra type r pulls .92 g's through the skidpad (http://www.purehonda.com/integramt.html. )

the prelude pulls .89 (http://applications.edmunds.com/revi...1/page020.html)

the type sh can do a 600 ft slalom at 64.9 mph (http://applications.edmunds.com/revi...1/page020.html)
. the ITR can do it in 67.8 (http://www.purehonda.com/integramt.html)

[dbebesi]

Originally Posted by Prelewd

Most of you are talking stock for stock cars.. but who really keeps their car stock anymore?

such a very very good point. that's why i hate all the car comparisions...

[del]

Originally Posted by dbebesi

such a very very good point. that's why i hate all the car comparisions...

i love car comparison discussions.

but to add to that, once you get into aftermarket and modifications, the sky's the limit and it becomes a different ballgame altogether. you can make a geo metro outrun and outhandle a porche 911 turbo with the right amount of parts not to mention $$$$. at least when comparing stock, the cars are on a more even playing field.

[GTR UnLtD]

LOL Del. I doubt a Metro could beat a Porsche in any way or form. Anyways, why did you trade in your Type SH ?

[del]

Originally Posted by GTR UnLtD

LOL Del. I doubt a Metro could beat a Porsche in any way or form. Anyways, why did you trade in your Type SH ?

anything's possible. i doubt that geo metro i speak of would be anywhere near the vicinity of streetable and legal. haha.

anywya, i traded my prelude, not coz i didn't like the car or anything. i just felt like i needed something new, to move on. my new car isn't anywhere close to as fast (yet), doesn't handle as well (yet), nor is it as fun to drive, but i like it. more luxury than sport, but i'm workin on that.

[bubblebutt]

Originally Posted by GTR UnLtD

LOL Del. I doubt a Metro could beat a Porsche in any way or form. Anyways, why did you trade in your Type SH ?

a local around here, and i swear i am not making this up, has a hunk of frame with a 502 chevy completely built w/ a wet system, striaght from the trans to the rear axle (with a very small drive shaft). with a tubbed out metro body on it, just for shits and giggles. i forget what i last seen it run, but that son of a bitch was fast. really fast, i wanna say 8's. but also there wasn't much metro left. but it was still cool