Supra vs M3

[CrzyMR2T]

im also talking about the magazine, i forgot which magazine it was, but the 350z beats the e46 in there, and it was on a different racetrack. in that best motoring video, did keichi tsuchiya drive that e46?

[Mike (M3)]

sorry, i have no idea, i was shwon it by a friend, and just remember thinking that the m3 driver was either purposely not trying hard, or was inexperienced with the car.

but i love both cars, m3 and 350z!

i just find it hard to believe that a 250hp car is as fast as a 350hp one..

[3000ways]

Originally Posted by Mike (M3)

sorry, i have no idea, i was shwon it by a friend, and just remember thinking that the m3 driver was either purposely not trying hard, or was inexperienced with the car.

but i love both cars, m3 and 350z!

i just find it hard to believe that a 250hp car is as fast as a 350hp one..

Try 287HP for the 350Z and 333HP for the M3 still a big difference, but that track in best motoring has many twisties and tight turns, I believe the track favored the handling qualities of the 350Z more than the M3, now if it was Fuji Raceway, which has long straights, the M3 would have most likely beat the 350Z.

[Rakshas]

not to mention the GTR camera car in the race, it blocked off the M3 a few times.

[Mr Payne]

It was in Road & Track.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=1

[CrzyMR2T]

well i hope its a combination of those factors of why the m3 posted slower times, and it also started off behind the 350z, but i think the magazine did this time trials thing, where the 350z won. if you ever watch that best motoring video, look for the quickest lap times, where they raced each car one by one, cause i missed that. anyways, i think bmw should retune the car.

[Rakshas]

The car is already tuned beyond belief.

Next design it's getting a V8

[Mike (M3)]

it should be an impressive car.

is it the same body, or is this gonna happen when they bring out the new 3 series?

(btw the bee-em still posted the fastest lap on that vid,im still not convinced about the 350z thing..anyways thats just imho)

[DinanM3_S2]

Just thought i would add this to fuel my M3 handling arguement. These are pics from a 1997 C&D article comparing cars for the best handling car over $30,000.

Cars included: E36 M3, Supra, NSX-T, Corvette, Viper GTS, F355, Boxster, and the 911 Carrera S.

http://speed.supercars.net/Board?vie...D=8&tID=120349

I remember this article and am still amazed that they found the M3 superior in handling to all of these other cars, especially the 911 and the F355.

[Rakshas]

Originally Posted by Mike (M3)

it should be an impressive car.

is it the same body, or is this gonna happen when they bring out the new 3 series?

(btw the bee-em still posted the fastest lap on that vid,im still not convinced about the 350z thing..anyways thats just imho)

New chassis

[DinanM3_S2]

http://speed.supercars.net/IMG?viewP...&auth=b18e2020

theres a pic and a small article on the new M3.

400bhp 4.0 liter V8 for the M3
440bhp 4.4 liter V8 for the M3 CSL

[joebowlr21]

actually, you do not want perfect 50/50 weight distribution.This is not ideal for track conditions.You actually want 45/55 distribution.This way the front had more grip through the corner.Is it that way, or reverse?

[CrzyMR2T]

Originally Posted by joebowlr21

actually, you do not want perfect 50/50 weight distribution.This is not ideal for track conditions.You actually want 45/55 distribution.This way the front had more grip through the corner.Is it that way, or reverse?

i think its reverse, you want the rear to have a bit more weight.

[3000ways]

Wow the new M3 looks tight, 400HP, same weight, should be awesome. I can already see it, 400HP V8 M3 vs. 400HP C6 Corvette and the new M3 CSL vs. the new Corvette ZO6.

[CarSuperfreak]

^ i like your thinking