Exhaust Horsepower Increase

[korrrray]

cndct if i had an mx3 your cars may be able to rape it, but where did you come up with the mx3?
lol, when it comes to cars, any decent import can take a 350-auto 700r4 american junkie with 5500 pounds of weight.

[mega man]

5500 pounds? where did that come from? when it comes to cars any decent 550-auto 700r4 american junkie with 3500 pounds of weight can destroy a decent import

[mega man]

i mean 350

[korrrray]

some firebirds are 4500 pounds and they are 2- door cars, i was thinking about the 4-door american cars with bigger engines like impala ss and crap like that.

[cndctrdj]

sorry you own the all mighty gonna beat everything on earth mx 6 ....... ( oooooooo we all shiver )

anyways i have yet to see an import that costs less than my car and with less money into it can outrun my car
or for that matter out handle my car

even at that thier are more aftermarket parts for a 89 5.0 mustang than thier are for half of the imports out thier put together

i dont know maybe i am wrong maybe this whole 1.8l 200hp thing is beter than my 5.7l 340hp..... nope i still make more hp

most 4th gen verts weigh 3500 lbs the leightest import i can think of off the top of my head is the lotus elise and thats 2k lbs

teach me i am an open minded person teah me why imports are so much better

[korrrray]

ok buddy, japanese mx6 klze with aftermarket turbo produces 290 hp fwd(and you can go on from there), your farm boy mustang might be faster than that 1.8 integra in an ALABAMA highway but there is no way that thing handles better and races better in "streets". First of all, imports are way more reliable than domestic cars, ive had 2 trans ams, one firebird, one neon before, neon was ok but the firebirds were breaking down left and right.Also these 305 engines that were on GMS 82-92 have knocking problems, they all start knocking at mileages after 100k. ( ALL OF THESE JUNKIE ENGINES LEAK OIL LIKE CRAZY)Ive also had Rx7,and two mx6s and ive noticed that these imports dont break down!Its just maybe the experience that ive had with my cars but i have worked in pontiac dealer 2 years ago and there were pontiac GRAND PRIXs coming in with 20000 miles and needed new transmissions, there are so many junk GMs running around. Even GM mechanics know these cars dont worth the money, but ask any honda/mazda/toyota technician, they love the cars they service.
If you dont beleive these, can you explain me why american cars are not sold worldwide?
you can sell and service a toyota/honda/mazda anywhere in the world. These cars have a reputation worldwide. But there are no dealers of pontiacs-buicks-chevrolet's in europe nor in asia.
(You can only get these american cars overseas in private dealers that ship cars from U.S.)
Since you know so much about you domestic mobiles, tell me why.
(Also, the Fords you see in Europe are not american made nor engineered, Ford models in europe are engineered either in UK or in Germany, with different engine sizes than in US. )

[gmctruck80]

[ Even GM mechanics know these cars dont worth the money, but ask any honda/mazda/toyota technician, they love the cars they service.
If you dont beleive these, can you explain me why american cars are not sold worldwide?
you can sell and service a toyota/honda/mazda anywhere in the world. These cars have a reputation worldwide.[/quote]


Alright ,first off no one was arguing that imports aren't mass produced, we all see hundreds of civics and integras every day. Second my dad has been a GM technichain for 20 years and the only thing he'll buy is a GM car, and the same thing with every one he works with, so i don't know where you got that whole idea from. And last, the point to this whole conversation was that any decent domestic can beat any decent import (if theres such thing)

[korrrray]

gmctruck your dad buys GMs because thats all he can work on, and he gets deals on parts and stuff. In order to own a GM and keep it in a decent shape you either have to be a mechanic at GM or make over 200k a year anyways.
gmctruck dont even start a conversation on GM quality, lol here Ill give you some GM quality pointers
- all GMs before 93 have headliners sagging out the window.
- power window switched die in about a year or two
- auto tranmission' slipping problem can start as early as 15k miles.
-Seats will be torn apart in 4-5 years most( cloth )
-in all GMs up to 93 you will notice black/gray smoke coming out when you first start the P.O.S. because damn think leaks oil in liters.
- if you have a cavalier/sunfire 95-04 the damn interior's plastic's color starts to fade (also the steering wheel becomes light gray/white)
ITS JUST CHEAP! but costs lots of money

-----but, you dont see these happen as often in 80s and early 90s hondas/acuras/mazdas/toyotas.

[gmctruck80]

lol all he can work on? he has worked on many of his friends imports. I had an 89 supra n/a and he rebuilt the engine in it. i finally sold the car because it had so many electrical problems lights windows etc. And all cars will have problems imports or domestic. I have a 1980 gmc truck and it dosent have any of those problems you say.Again the point to all this was a decent domestic will beat a decent import.

[korrrray]

obviously your dad didnt do a good job in working on the supra lol.
and your 1980 gmc truck is the greatest thing on eart, faster than any import and can overrun the hummer h1 off road , right?

[gmctruck80]

alright man, the supras rebuilt engine ran great it had problems cause it was junk and cheaply made. as for the truck i was trying to say it was reliable but yea it could proably take an mx6.

[korrrray]

ok gmctruck you gotta wake up, you have been hypnotised by your daddy.
1) supras are not cheaply made
2) your gmctruck could not even take a damn kia rio, a mazda would not even race a 1980 p.o.s. gmc, those truck use up more engine oil than fuel, leaking all over what the hell are you talking about lol. oh yea you probably have one of those cheap ass pickups with the white walled buick tires, and a manual shifter knob extends 3 foot out looking like a dildo.lol ( timeless american design aahaahah)

[gmctruck80]

alright kid im about done arguing with you but first i want to say supras have lots of electrical problems there not as good as people say, believe me i had one for three years, i think you've been watching the fast and the furious to much. And as for the truck it has no engine oil problems but it does have a freshley rebuilt 454 in it so the only reason a mazda wouldnt race it would be because they were to afraid after hearing the engine.

[korrrray]

lol, well i think you have been watching the 70s BANDIT for too long, even if you have 454 in that pos, its still the old ugly ass gmc , " dress up a fat ugly girl in the best clothes and what do you get? still an ugly ass girl" thats how your truck is, no matter what you do to it, its just a old ugly ass truck. You had a supra for 3 years and the thing was the year 89, so you dont know who drove it, it could have been an abused car by some freak, you never know. Also, just because your supra was crap does not mean all the supras have had those problems that year, it could just have been yours.
( oh yea, your gifted GM technician DADDY might be a factor in that supra's problems )lol
- he is so gifted he can fix up anything, super ROBOMECHANIC lol

[chickenkicker]

I'm not gonna sit here and argue imports vs domestics all day, I actually like some of both but when it comes to imports they don't come stock with as much power as some american cars. Show me a stock import that can beat a stock 2000 camaro SS, zo6 or viper, there are none. And don't say that if you put $3,000 into the import it would win because if you put the same $3,000 into one of the above mentioned american cars they would still own the little import. And I think reliability is about equal. We owned a 86 camry, bought it new, and it completely died after only like 12,000 miles and needed extensive engine work. My friends 200sx also never ran even after spending well over 1,000 to fix it. Also our 94 accord has had many more problems than out 1990 dodge, including over the years every door handle breaking off multiple times and large parts of the interior breaking/cracking etc.