Slipping course :(

[Veetec]

Originally posted by TheMasterG
As for Hondas being only a highway car, I strongly disagree, they're at home on corners, hence the quality suspension. Nice to hear from you though, stick around

Agreed! Forgot to write that last night! I think japan doesn´t have got many straight highways and they are only allowed to drive with a top-speed of 100km/h so that there is no need for a high top-speed.

[AccordCE8]

about good cornering quality's... my slalom-times were at the top of the list, and I had the biggest car of all! Sidney



and the 406 coupe is a real beauty...

[Sidney106GTi?]

hehehe!

it looks like I hit a sensitive spot here! What I meant to say was, concerning the engine that is, Hondas feel really at home at high RPM, right? Right. High rpm is helpful for speed, not cornering, right? Right. Torque is!

Didn't mean to diss anybody here, but I think it is true that Hondas have longer wheelbases (in general) than the average Pug (106, 205, 205, 306), hence sharp cornering is somewhat dampened by this...

Hondas are without doubt the best combination of high-performance high-tech engines, reliability and design (somewhat dwindling however, with the dawning of the new-style Civic, although I would LOVE to test the Type-R someday!). I myself like hatchbacks and the French are quite good at designing those.

Concerning the motorsport I have to disagree! At www.peugeotboutique.com , which is an official Peugeot site!, you can buy everything to convert yer Pug into a fire-breathin' rally machine!!

Does Honda has anything similar? Would be cool! (expensive, I think)

I agree with the rest of the world: the 406 is without a doubt one of the best looking cars EVER! (not the fastes, that's a real shame...)

Do you agree with me when I say, Hondas are too expensive to buy new? They just aim at people not so young with rather good income!
What is the cheapest Honda you can buy? The Logo?

Wow, quitte some text here! Sorry, these were just my thought!
Sidney

[Goosse]

Originally posted by Sidney106GTi?
hehehe!

it looks like I hit a sensitive spot here! What I meant to say was, concerning the engine that is, Hondas feel really at home at high RPM, right? Right. High rpm is helpful for speed, not cornering, right? Right. Torque is!

Concerning the motorsport I have to disagree! At www.peugeotboutique.com , which is an official Peugeot site!, you can buy everything to convert yer Pug into a fire-breathin' rally machine!!

Does Honda has anything similar? Would be cool! (expensive, I think)

Honda isn't that ralley orientated. They feel more at home at the track. (Spoon, Mugen)

Why can't you keep your engine into the RPM's when you take turns? As long as the turn isn't to sharp I can easely keep my RPM between the 4000-4500 rpm.

BTW: nice to have some input from a Pug fan.

[Sidney106GTi?]

that is what I mean! SHARP turns, or things like roundabouts!

rallye (sorry, french spelling) is throwing the car over the rally-course
whereas track-driving is horsepower! (see what I mean!?)

AccordCE8's car is a real nice car to drive! Thing is, it is not a real sharphandling car which you can use to take corners with say 65 km/hr... Mine can... (with dry weather!). It is however a very relaxing car to drive in, mine being a bit nervous (with the GTi being completely frantic I reckon!)

And it was pretty fast during the slalom (what's it called in English??); it was pretty obvious it had a bit of a problem getting it around those orange cones... Even with the great Eibach springs it had body-roll, nevertheless...

I think the whole 'feel' for Honda or Peugeot (or BMW or whatever) is very personal and arguing about it has no use although it is always good fun!!

Pardonnez moi, ma voiture? C'est une Peugeot!

[Sidney106GTi?]

BTW is Mugen part of Honda or not?? :huh:

(so can you get Honda-race stuff to convert your Honda to a streetfighter?)

[Goosse]

Originally posted by Sidney106GTi?

I think the whole 'feel' for Honda or Peugeot (or BMW or whatever) is very personal and arguing about it has no use although it is always good fun!!

Damn, and I had just a hole line of arguments lined up

[civic_1.6_16v]

Originally posted by Goosse


Damn, and I had just a hole line of arguments lined up

He Goosse, I thought we had this discussion a couple of days ago
And that was going nowhere, so why start now again

Nah just kidding

[Veetec]

Originally posted by Sidney106GTi?
hehehe!

it looks like I hit a sensitive spot here! What I meant to say was, concerning the engine that is, Hondas feel really at home at high RPM, right? Right. High rpm is helpful for speed, not cornering, right? Right. Torque is!

Didn't mean to diss anybody here, but I think it is true that Hondas have longer wheelbases (in general) than the average Pug (106, 205, 205, 306), hence sharp cornering is somewhat dampened by this...

Hondas are without doubt the best combination of high-performance high-tech engines, reliability and design (somewhat dwindling however, with the dawning of the new-style Civic, although I would LOVE to test the Type-R someday!). I myself like hatchbacks and the French are quite good at designing those.

Concerning the motorsport I have to disagree! At www.peugeotboutique.com , which is an official Peugeot site!, you can buy everything to convert yer Pug into a fire-breathin' rally machine!!

Does Honda has anything similar? Would be cool! (expensive, I think)

I agree with the rest of the world: the 406 is without a doubt one of the best looking cars EVER! (not the fastes, that's a real shame...)

Do you agree with me when I say, Hondas are too expensive to buy new? They just aim at people not so young with rather good income!
What is the cheapest Honda you can buy? The Logo?

Wow, quitte some text here! Sorry, these were just my thought!
Sidney

Don´t worry. You haven´t dissed anybody! But you´re right with most ( ) what you´ve said! I like Peugeots too but I just wouldn´t buy any other brand than Honda in the moment. I´m kind of stuck to them....
Mugen is its own brand and it`s only offering parts for Hondas. Their stuff is good quality but way too expensive compared to the power gains!!!

[Kohhal]

Originally posted by Goosse
...Why can't you keep your engine into the RPM's when you take turns? As long as the turn isn't to sharp I can easely keep my RPM between the 4000-4500 rpm...

You really wanna be keeping it higher than that if you're pushing the car, if you've got a VTEC engine, keep it over 5,500rpm where the power is, I keep mine over 5000rpm when I'm driving hard thru corners

Originally posted by Sidney106GTi?
...AccordCE8's car is a real nice car to drive! Thing is, it is not a real sharphandling car which you can use to take corners with say 65 km/hr... Mine can... (with dry weather!). It is however a very relaxing car to drive in, mine being a bit nervous (with the GTi being completely frantic I reckon!)...

True but you're comparing an Accord to a Pug, of course the Pug will turn tighter, a Civic is a different story however

[Sidney106GTi?]

You're right!

Civic 1.6 16V's Civic was really fast on the slalom!!

the Accord has been the only Honda to date in which I had the pleasure to drive!

WHAT WERE YOUR ARGUMENTS!!


(way cool, discussing things like this!)

I think we all agree on one thing: we may like Hondas, we may like Pugs, but we all HATE Opels, Daewoos, Hyundais, VW's, Mercedes (I do at least!), Kia,euh... Toyota? hmm...

and we LOVE BMW!, SUBARU! (only one model, that is ), AUDI!, PORSCHE!, VOLVO!, SAAB!

anything else!?!?

[Veetec]

Originally posted by Sidney106GTi?
You're right!

Civic 1.6 16V's Civic was really fast on the slalom!!

the Accord has been the only Honda to date in which I had the pleasure to drive!

WHAT WERE YOUR ARGUMENTS!!


(way cool, discussing things like this!)

I think we all agree on one thing: we may like Hondas, we may like Pugs, but we all HATE Opels, Daewoos, Hyundais, VW's, Mercedes (I do at least!), Kia,euh... Toyota? hmm...

and we LOVE BMW!, SUBARU! (only one model, that is ), AUDI!, PORSCHE!, VOLVO!, SAAB!

anything else!?!?

Personally I like Mercedes too but dislike Saab and Volvo! Toyota is not that good but I like Lexus again! But like you´ve already said I hate Opel and VW!!!! But I don´t want to start about that again....

[civic_1.6_16v]

Originally posted by Veetec
But like you´ve already said I hate Opel and VW!!!! But I don´t want to start about that again....

Yeah I agree with that

Lets just keep it friendly in here

[civic_1.6_16v]

Originally posted by Sidney106GTi?
Civic 1.6 16V's Civic was really fast on the slalom!!

O stop it, you make me blush :silly2: :hehehe:

No really, If I were really fast I would have won that trophee.

But it was the first time for me drving a slalom course
So in that case I think I didn't do that bad
The nr. 1 position had 20 secs. if I could remeber correctly
And my fastest time (out of 3 runs) was 22.something secs
But the guy that won had the modified car with the 405 engine at 170-180 horses.

[AccordCE8]

nice to read all that pro - contra posts well done sidney

Luckily i was away for a few days so didn't had 2 type in all that arguments and so on. But honda is still number one after reading all the argument I conclude :bandit:

Bringing my accord to the dealer monday, Hope I'm not 2 mad monday evening because that day will cost me a lot of money I think, the distribution belt has 2 be replaced also!