Do you think pornography is anti-satisfactory?

[Raz_Kaz]

Originally Posted by MagicRat

The Economist magazine (for those who don't know, its like Newsweek but with more of an international outlook) recently reported the American porn movie industry (at $3.15 billion) generates more revenue than the mainstream Hollywood moive industry (at $3 billion).

It's so huge because so many people want to see it. Does this mean its socially acceptable?

I doubt it because porn industries only put out movies for audiences fo 18 years of age or older wheras Hollywood puts out movies for all ages. If porn weren't so restricted, than it wouldn't be as huge

[psychobadboy]

Originally Posted by Raz_Kaz

I doubt it because porn industries only put out movies for audiences fo 18 years of age or older wheras Hollywood puts out movies for all ages. If porn weren't so restricted, than it wouldn't be as huge

So you're saying that the more restricted something is, the more money the particular industry generates? It makes sense, yet at the same time, doesn't really.

[2strokebloke]

Why so defensive about this anyway?

Because I'm sick and tired of everybody always pointing fingers, instead of being responsible for their own actions. It's the same argument used over and over and over.
"He would have never beat his wife if he weren't an alcoholic."
"they wouldn't have brought a gun to school, but video games made them do it."
"They would've never started smoking if they hadn't seen it in movies."
You see the pattern here? It's never their fault they made their choices, it's always an outside influence that forced them to do it! Is there something wrong with wanting people to be accountable for themselves?

[Soyo]

I never said porn made him do it, I just said that he said porn is where he started and he wanted more and more, kind of like they say marijuana is a gateway drug that makes you want more, not that it is cuz I wouldn't know, but thats kinda what I'm saying about porn, so stop arguing abotu what I didn't say

[l33tc4k30fd00m]

Originally Posted by 2strokebloke

Because I'm sick and tired of everybody always pointing fingers, instead of being responsible for their own actions. It's the same argument used over and over and over.
"He would have never beat his wife if he weren't an alcoholic."
"they wouldn't have brought a gun to school, but video games made them do it."
"They would've never started smoking if they hadn't seen it in movies."
You see the pattern here? It's never their fault they made their choices, it's always an outside influence that forced them to do it! Is there something wrong with wanting people to be accountable for themselves?

I agree 100% with that. That really bugs me also.

[DGB454]

Originally Posted by 2strokebloke

Because I'm sick and tired of everybody always pointing fingers, instead of being responsible for their own actions. It's the same argument used over and over and over.
"He would have never beat his wife if he weren't an alcoholic."
"they wouldn't have brought a gun to school, but video games made them do it."
"They would've never started smoking if they hadn't seen it in movies."
You see the pattern here? It's never their fault they made their choices, it's always an outside influence that forced them to do it! Is there something wrong with wanting people to be accountable for themselves?

I agree that people ultimately are the ones responsible for their actions.
There may be factors that influenced them but they did the act.
I still stand by my first post that porn is addictive.

[Joseph1082]

Addiction doen't excuse you... it is still your fault for getting there, feeding the habbit, making yourself addicted... is a crackhead not at fault? But we still must recognize the fact that it is addictive.

[HogieGT-R]

Originally Posted by Soyo

kind of like they say marijuana is a gateway drug that makes you want more

i've smoked marijuana and i've known plenty of people who do, and haven't done any harder things than that, it doesn't make it so that you want other drugs, it's the few stupid people who smoke up and then hang out with the others doing harder stuff, that's why, they don't act responsible enough and they take the harder stuff......


as for pornography, i've been looking at it since i was 12, and i've turned out fine, sure i've spent hours looking at pictures and watching videos, but it's all about human control, addictive? please......it just cures boredom

[jon@af]

Originally Posted by HogieGT-R

i've been looking at it since i was 12, and i've turned out fine, sure i've spent hours looking at pictures and watching videos, but it's all about human control, addictive? please......it just cures boredom

w3rd. Porn is funny to watch sometimes. Especially when drunk. My mom asked me one day "Why do you watch that crap? That's all it is." and I said "would you rather have me having unprotected sex and doing hard drugs?" That shut her up.

[Oz]

Porn is quite satisfactory, thank you. No, it's not addictive.

[jajimo]

Hahahahhaha...

I believe a more important question is, why do you feel certain sexual acts are taboo and others are not? Is a man kissing a woman more explicit than a man kissing a man, or a woman kissing a woman? Is having a 10" pseudo-phallic put in your rectum any worst than taking a 3" flaccid one missionary style?

This isn't a question of consent. Everyone acknowledges that non-consensual ANYTHING is wrong.

Now that I think about it, a MORE important question, is why do you feel that displaying certain things are more harmful than others? Is showing the execution of an innocent person via sword, or perhaps the bodies of innocent people dropping to the ground from burning buildings on live TV any less dangerous to our's and our childrens' psyches than seeing two (or more) people having sex?

Are you trying to lead me to believe this is merely about addiction, and not your opinion of what should or should not be censored?

No one forced you to look at porn, if you have an addiction, than that is something that needs to be resolved with a psychiatrist. If you have a problem with what's shown on MTV, then don't watch MTV. Your children aren't fucking rocks, they can figure out for themselves what is good and what is bad. Attempting to force them into a pre-determined mindset will only harm them psychologically and set them up for a lifetime of dependence.

(Editted for content adjustment)

[Raz_Kaz]

/\Geeze...don't gotta be so graphic about it

[jajimo]

Originally Posted by Raz_Kaz

/\Geeze...don't gotta be so graphic about it

I have no intent of attacking you, and the purpose of this response is not to do so. However, this is very closely related to the point I was getting at. What makes it too graphic? Is the image of the aformentioned acts too much to handle? If so, why do you believe you have come to feel this way?

I do not have the answers to these questions, nor am I in any place to tell you the answers to them. Perhaps I was too graphic, or perhaps I was not. You may have some very personal, very logical reasons for disagreeing with the terms I used, in which case, I apologize fully. However, if on the other hand, it is simply a matter of pre-conditioned social norms, then I would definitely suggest you question how such things were created.

[Raz_Kaz]

I was not offended nor do I find the way one explains something to be irrational based on the examples given. I just figured it was getting into a lot of datails which weren't necessary IMO. And your response was well, I just think that leaving at the comparison between a man kissing a woman and a man kissing a man or a woman kissing a woman would have been better. No need for that description of the 10"...yea...I thought that material like that was frowned upon. Just looking out man and good point

[jajimo]

Originally Posted by Raz_Kaz

I was not offended nor do I find the way one explains something to be irrational based on the examples given. I just figured it was getting into a lot of datails which weren't necessary IMO. And your response was well, I just think that leaving at the comparison between a man kissing a woman and a man kissing a man or a woman kissing a woman would have been better. No need for that description of the 10"...yea...I thought that material like that was frowned upon. Just looking out man and good point

Understandable, in that case, I'd have to ask myself why I felt it necessary to bring such things up. I guess I was just trying to solidify the point, and really make people question why they feel certain things are taboo, and others not. Some may have no problem with public displays of affection between two people of the same sex, but they may have a problem with large pseudo-phallic penetration, in which case, I was trying to offer something that would be taboo by a large majority.

I've had to ask myself why I feel certain ways about certain sex acts (i.e. against them), but for the most part, I've boiled it down to a respect for one's partner...