Overhyped, and Basterdised!

[HondaHater]

Originally Posted by SkylineUSA

I run both V8 superchrged, N2O, and a Twin Turboed RB26. Both are good at what they do.

And anyone who run on the any freeway is an idiot, don't care if its in Japan or not. There are legal place for that type of driving, and public roads are not it.

wangan freeway is a nice place to go to, all the big powers come together and eat up each other.

[lilslim]

I would love to get a chance to go to Japan, for many reasons. Drifting, Tokyo Auto Show, and the freeway racing. Those cars hit in the 200MPH zone EASY, unlike here, where its a big deal for a Civic to do 13 sec 1/4 mile. Those cars are crazy in Japan. One day I WILL go there. If ya want to see some of that buy the DVD called Beasts From The East.

Peace

[Moppie]

Originally Posted by SkylineUSA

It has no copyright

I posted it a while ago. The story is from a book that came with my GTR.

Ahhh, I was wondering for a while if it was something you had written, but Im sure had you spent that amount of time in Aussie you would have mentioned it before.
One thing you can take from that is just how awsome the RS500 Seirras were, had they had the active AWD systems the skylines did it would have been a much more interesting season. Its a shame the GTR didnt qualify for any of the European Touring car classes, it would have been interesting to see how they stacked up against other AWD touring cars like the Audi's.

And it seems that there was much, much more to the radical change in rules in Aussie than the success of the GTR's, the previous domination of the Sierras, and rising costs were clearly larger factors, the GTR's were simply the icing on the cake that puched the Domestic manufactors (Ford and Holden) into pressuring CAMS into the new rule set up, based around domestic models.
A similar radical change is unforunatly now needed, as the existing rules have finaly been left behind technologicaly by the Manufactors who first created them. Both now have AWD V8 models on the maket, and both now use engines and suspension set ups in the road cars that are not legal in the race cars.

[HondaHater]

honda copying a skyline's vspec technology, probably old news to everyone, but thought i'd bring it to the table. freaking wannabes.

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by HondaHater

honda copying a skyline's vspec technology, probably old news to everyone, but thought i'd bring it to the table. freaking wannabes.

The closest thing hondas gonna get to a skyline is that stupid honda accord that was in import tuner that looked like a half as skyline lol .
I had it on my sig back in the day.

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[Moppie]

Originally Posted by HondaHater

honda copying a skyline's vspec technology,

Is there some sarcasim in that that Im missing?

[SkylineUSA]

Honda makes good cars, very good cars. I am glad to see they are usinf that tech, it brings more to the table.

[Moppie]

Im must be missing something, but what tech are Honda useing that Nissan apprently developed?

[HondaHater]

honda has a awd drive car, well in the making unless it's already out in japan already(?) but it's in some ways, copying skyline's victory specs. if i find the article, ill be sure to post it.

[Moppie]

Honda has had AWD cars since the mid 80s?
So what?

[RazorGTR]

I was going to reply with something quite politically correct if you were or even somewhat nice. Was being the key word.

Originally Posted by lilslim

Why is the Skyline, which USE to be one of my favorite cars so basterdised? Its overhyped, and people talk about it like its the ONLY good Japanese car in this dumb country!

That is because it was never sold there new, so it is sort of a novelty. The fact the most american "kids" have to fantasize about something. I guess wanking in the dark just doesn't cut it anymore.

Originally Posted by lilslim

The Skyline isnt the fastest Japanese car to 60. The Evo is faster to 60.

Wrong it isn't. Even the EVO8 is slower. I was in a bog standard R34 Vspec II which did it in 4.9 seconds. My R32 GTR with exahust and pod filters did it 4.7 seconds. The Evo is 5.3 thank you very much. In Australia they tested a NUR spec R34 GTR which did it in 4.5 seconds bog standard. Oh wait you knew that didn't you professor.

Originally Posted by lilslim

The Skyline isnt the best on the freeway. The Supra is. What the Skyline IS good in is road racing. Its good on tracks with long straights, and non-tight curves. But if it was in a very curvy track with lots of tight curves, and not too much straights, the Evo will crush it. If it was on the freeway, the supra will KILL it.

Really! Seems to me when tested on a high speed ring in Japan the R33 GTR out performed the Supra in both acceleration and a complete circut of the track. The R33 being slower than the R32 and R34 in overall tests.
As tested time and time again since the R32 the GTR out did the Supra, Evo, NSX, RX7, and WRX on a proper race track. Just so you know when pushed comes to shove the Evo will understeer like a pig on the really tight stuff as it is full time 4wd. I can't remember how many EVO's there are in the JGTC. Please remind me again as I can't think of ONE! Again you knew that though didn't you. I mean you must have graduated top in your class for the mentally "challanged".

Originally Posted by lilslim

If I was to put 10K into the engine of a Skyline, and 10K into the engine of a Supra, the Supra would have more HP.

Oh that's right in the JGTC the supra's use the 3S GTE motor not the 2JZ but you knew didn't you, because you're such a smart kid. Oh wait i guess you aren't are you because you just posted one of the biggest pieces of shit threads I've seen in a while.

Originally Posted by lilslim

If you look at speed test, or circut racers in Japan, or people trying to break records for high speed on the freeway, the use Supras, in Japan. They know what Skylines are good, and not good in.

Seems to me the GTR's have ruled the streets in Japan for over a decade now. I guess everyone is blind or wrong but you.

Originally Posted by lilslim

But this country, people ONLY give Skylines credit. The funny thing is, half those people sweating the Skyline, dont know shit about it. I am sooooo sick of the 2 Fast 2 Furious crowd basterdising that car! I hope I didnt offend anyone, who dont wanna hear the truth. Later people!

Yep and you're one of them bud. I would like to suggest you put the playstation hand controller down, turn off GT1, GT2 or GT3 which ever you're playing and go hang yourself in the closet. You haven't got a clue as what you are talking about.
While the Skyline GTR ISN'T the end all be all car as there are plenty others out there that will eat it for lunch, those car's aren't produced in Japan. At least not yet. Hell I'd love a Porsche GT2 or GT3, or Zonda to mention a few but at a cost that is more than even an ABOVE average estate I'll pass.

I'm also getting so sick of complete and utter fuckwits posting shit or making comparisons about cars they haven't got a single clue as what they really are or are about, they will NEVER own, they've NEVER been in or driven. They base their misguided opinions off of some magazine or car show who's editors or producers wouldn't know a spark plug from a dildo. One of the most famous quotes is the fruit loop on Top Gear saying the GTR front rotors explode. I've never heard of this nor has it been documented even in Japan.

Get a life, get a dog, and if you can't at least do yourself a favour and get an education before you post again, and for God's sake put the damn playstation away and do some re-search first.

[Moppie]

PMS is a killer huh Vince.

[jcsaleen]

razor I hav that movie on r33 vs the supra. Man the supra got its ass wooped. But if you've seen the top gear clip r33 vs the mclaren f1 the r33 beat it off the line for like a second lol.

[jcsaleen]

Razor just as a question do you kno how the subaru wrx STI 2004 does against it?? It does come with 300 stock!

[jcsaleen]

Oh yea and they compared the lancer evo (6) , I think not sure a subaru wrx (1999 just assuming) and the 1999 gtr (not vspec). That wa also in another top gear episode... (Top gear top 3 shows of all time!)