14b, 16g and a question or two

[Janet Reno]

I heard the Evo 16g can produce power near to the 20g

[scottsee]

yup, sure can, but its like kinda like me peddling next to lance armstrong, i could peddle my ass off to keep up with him, but after a while he would pull away because i would get tired, not only that, but if he peddled as hard as i was to keep up with him, he'd smoke me. same concept

[scottsee]

theirs little dogs and their big dogs.

[BoostedSpyder]

also you MUST get an upgraded torque converter. do a search in here on EVO 16g, i posted a thread on it and it was a nice conversation. the GReddy type-24 is a good easy to install FMIC. i got 1 and you can see the pics of it in the link in my sig below. ya the 4g63 is an amazing engine!! another common statement is 450hp [crank] so we got the internals for massive bolt-on power! also look into the Profec B-spec II boost controller. it's smaller and very easy to program

[JoeWagon]

The EVO 16g is almost as powerful as SOME 20g's. The TDO6H 20g will rape it, as in 400whp+. There is almost a 1 second difference between the fastest 16g and 20g. The faster being 10.7.

Anyway, I'm not sure if he meant oil cooler, transmission cooler, or what... let me ask today unless someone else knows? Don't worry, you won't be pushing near 400whp without some extensive work.

[Janet Reno]

Was looking for who said it...think it was 95 GSX

"Properly supported the EVO16g will run over 25 psi. A 14b will do 25 psi. A local club member was flowing 44 lbs/min on his EVO16g, which is nearly 20g territory. I dont have one, but I do not hesitate to endorse the turbo. And for 535-570 shipped, its a fantastic option for many people that dont want to go huge. Add a FMIC and better than average tuning/driving, and you have 11 secnd potential. Which is to be expected, sicne both the small and big 16g have done mid 11s. This turbo should do it with more finesse though, and less abuse."

[skateanddestroy]

The best turbo, in my opinion, that you can buy is the Hahn Super 16g. It has staged boost so you have less wheel spin off the line. It's just an amazing turbo. You can upgrade it to a 20g later on. It's about $800 and that includes everything you need. That's a little more than you would spend for an Evo 16g after getting the install kit. The 14b is actually an awesome turbo. I have a friend putting down 280hp with his and he only has exhaust, ic piping, 1g bov and a manual boost controller. If you want to go cheap, go with the 14b. You can run 12's in an AWD on a 14b. Anyway, that's my 2 cents.

[JoeWagon]

So, it includes a dual stage boost controller? I'd rather have the bigger EVOIII 16g for $569 and if I needed a dual stage, I'd get that cheap too. Hahn thinks everyone is stupid.

[youngvr4]

lol

[scottsee]

boy no one seems to know where the good prices are around here.. the evo 3 16g is selling for $520 from Slowboy racings EBAY autions. no offence

[skateanddestroy]

Nah, I'm pretty sure the Hahn Super 16g is bigger than the Evo. Just because the Evo is bigger than other companies' "super 16g's" doesn't mean it's bigger than Hahn's. The Hahn 16g doesn't come with a dual stage boost controller. The turbo boosts in stages. I bet that turbo would kill an Evo 16g, but, hey, to each his own. It's a good deal for a turbo kit that includes the 2g install kit, a ported 02 housing and I believe a ported manifold but i'm not sure of that.

[scottsee]

well hans uses a t3 ball berring wheel. the evo 3 16 uses a tdo5h wheel.

[JoeWagon]

I just haven't read many positive threads about HRC turbos, and most of them are like this: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/show...ight=super+16g

[scottsee]

i like hans website. its informative.