need some clarity... b16a2+turbo+nitrous

[mrscratche]

B16 Not D16

[GWInquisitor14]

Sorry, i meant B16, the engine in the Del Sol vtec. I know what is required to get 800 hp out of a supra, dont question me there. Im still going w/ that the K series are good engines, Honda supposivly got rid of their flaws and made it. If he wants the civic fine, im just saying dont just drop 80K on a civic w/o knowing what ur doing. To get a civic to run good w/ a turbo and NOS u need to know a lot and well not be a NOOB. Im gonna leave it at that

[mrscratche]

ok, i'm starting to loose a bit of patience b/c i didn't really ask for opinions on what car is better then a civic, or how any other cars can beat a civic... etc...

i simply asked (well told) what i was planning on doing and was looking for suggestions to improve upon it WITHIN certian parameters (on being it remains a honda civic)... now on to the rest:

Originally Posted by GWInquisitor14

To get a civic to run good w/ a turbo and NOS u need to know a lot and well not be a NOOB

1. "not be a NOOB"
- and how would one go about becomming, "not... ...a NOOB"?
- perhaps by asking questions? *nudge, nudge, wink, wink*

2. "u need to know a lot"
- i'm not quite sure what you mean by ur clear, concise, and complete description of, "u need to know a lot"
- a lot about? turbos? nitrous?
- isn't that why God made professionals?

anyways, w/e... ty to all those who posted answers to some of my questions, and the rest... well... enjoy ur honda bashing...

[Ace$nyper]

By meaning you'll need to know alot he means that with Honda motors to get assloads of power *any motor at that really* you gotta tune it run parts that work together. Understanding what A/R would work best what size turbine 3 or 5 angle grid etc etc. what timing to run your cams all this becomes more and more important with more power being made.

BTW I also know what to make 800hp from a supra. you said thats easy its not. thats what i'm saying.

[DeleriousZ]

alright i think i'll jump in on this action..
400 whp does not require any rediculous amount of money.. drop 10 grand and you've got it.. as long as you know what to do with it. i never really was that big of a fan of civics.. until i started looking around and learning.. there are some really respectable civics out there.. they just get a bad name from all the idiots out there with their altezza lights and boeing wing..
in all honesty.. i would suggest a RWD car... after i bought my teg i look back and really don't see anything else i could have bought.. i love my car but i wish it was rwd.. i've driven my buddy's rx-7 and it's just sooo much more fun to drive.. sliding around corners.. doing some donuts when it snows.. just general stuff like that.. there's tons of reasons why to buy rwd.. and there are tons of reasons why not to, i just think you'd be much more happy with a rwd car.
that being said.. i'm not trying to turn you off of civics.. if you want one, then that's awesome! but if you haven't bought it yet.. look around to other options..

[Thepeug]

The man wants a Civic. I don't think he's going to be persuaded otherwise, so let's help him out within the context of a Civic.
That said, the type of Civic you're looking for is an important factor to consider becuase of the weight issue. There's a near 700-lb difference between a base-model EF hatch, for example, and a new Civic Si. Becuase you have $80,000 to work with, I assume you'll want one of the newer models, and 700 pounds isn't a major obstacle when you have that much money, but there are plenty of EF, EG, and EK fanatics out there who wouldn't settle for any other than their respective generation.
You also mentioned that you'd like to run "9's-11's." Unfortunately, the amount of money and engine work required to run 9's is substantially more than the amount of money and engine work required to run 11's. Be more specific about how fast you want to go; a goal for speed will help determine how much of the money goes towards performance. The rest can then be used for aesthetics, audio, whatever you like.

[GWInquisitor14]

Ya alright, if u want the civic, ask away, ill try and answer them the best i can. I just want to say this though, the B16 is a good engine, not trying to diss it, but if u have a lot of money maybe find out what engine is gonna work best for ur application, especially if u have 80k. Maybe an H22 or H23 vtec swap. If you have that much money, you could put it towards the H23 vtec swap to make it stable. That engine is suppose to run 206 hp, w/o mods. I saw an exact dyno run of it.

[XixGenuinexiX]

My goodness, i don't even think a b16a can go into the new Civic's. You want a engine that is newer or the same year as your car. Therefore go w/ the car series, do a search you'll find plenty of info. 400hp has been achieved on a K-series engine. With the stock Acura RSX-S engine you'll already be pushing around 190whp, just throwing out a number didn't do any research yet. http://www.cybernationmotorsports.com/home.php for some information on a turbo RSX