I want midrange tourque

[TheSilentChamber]

My torque:



Humm... its not a V8 and its a two door hatch... is it considered sport compact?

[optimuscivic]

Originally Posted by 90civicracer

Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races, lol.

i hate that quote.
anyways i would go with a b20b/z. lots of midrange and cost around the same b18b. plus you will be able to hang with the b16s, if not beat them.

[90civicracer]

Yeah I know what you mean...there are a lot more things to consider, like power curve. I'd rather have a more linear power curve than one that spikes really high in the rpm's. Granted I have a honda, and thats where my power is, lol.

[90civicracer]

Doesn't mean this thing has torque (sorry Josh)...1.5 liter with exhaust and short ram intake, lol. Also, no water or bleached or anything was used to get smoke, just the 92hp beast. I would know because I was the one who took the pic, lol.

[optimuscivic]

yea i know what you mean.

where i live all these muscle car guys talk about torque winning races and that horsepower means nothing without torque. its just there ignorance that bothers me. they think that having less than 200 torque means you cant be fast. yet with their v6 mustangs making 200+ torque they still can't beat my little sedan.

end of rant.

[90civicracer]

I could have a steady torque of about 150 and beat a car that has a top torque of say 170but before that is lower than mine.

p.s. Magazine racing sux, lol.

[SiZ]

Originally Posted by 90civicracer

Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races, lol.

And parrots repeat everything they hear.

If you had any idea what the fuck you were talking about you'd realize what an idiotic statement that is.

[91civicDXdude]

my experience with LS vs b16 goes something like this.

my b18 would smoke the tires in three gears, woo ricers with its "most torque of any b series" bullshit (ever noticed how the GSR has *more* torque than B18A ), and it sure looked pretty under the hood.

when it came down to it, id whoop b16 hatches in 1st and 2nd, and get smoked when their gearing started to catch up.

you could call the LS the Chevy305 of the 4 cylinder honda world. torquey (for a honda), but its top end sucks badly

[turtlecrxsi]

get pulleys and ignition system unless you really want to swap... oh yeah, you may say "bs" but sohc with ignition, hc pistons, and pulleys wasted some b16s... i miss those hc piston days

[Ace$nyper]

Originally Posted by 91civicDXdude

you could call the LS the Chevy305 of the 4 cylinder honda world. torquey (for a honda), but its top end sucks badly

So its a stolen Ford motor also?
ROFL

learn your old racing before you say WTF.

[Civic Jim]

setanta would have a field day with this thread lmao , torque is a By product of HP and the bigger the engine the larger the torque, unless you go turbo etc etc, if not just get a B16A and then put in some cams to alter the power range mate

[SiZ]

Originally Posted by civic 16valver

setanta would have a field day with this thread lmao , torque is a By product of HP and the bigger the engine the larger the torque, unless you go turbo etc etc, if not just get a B16A and then put in some cams to alter the power range mate

OOOH! Someone with a slight understanding!

HORSEPOWER IS TORQUE!

[TheSilentChamber]

torque is what gets you there, horsepower is whatk keeps you there.

[Posey88cvic4dr]

go with the B18 and then throw on like 2 bolt ons/mods and you should be able to take the B16's with no problem.... same with the ZC

[travagliante]

Originally Posted by 2ndb18

Im not talkin about tons of tourque, im not stupid i nkow your not gonna get much out of a 4 cylinder. but now my only concern is if i do the B18 swap i am gonna get beat by the B16s with VTEC. Soooo

WTF: You can get a lot of torque out of 4 cylinders. Just requires more $money$ and work!