EVO 16g reviews

[EclipseRST]

Originally Posted by boostedinaz

I dont think anyone on this board is going for records just nice reliable peroformance.

I am ... looking for the world record for my car!!!

[kjewer1]

NAturally I would never suggest someone run a 14b on the street all day on pump gas. But if you want to be competitive you have to run high boost. Thats what race gas is for. When you get to my level you can run well over 25 psi on pump gas with no trouble daily. The question was how much boost with the turbo make, not how much can be run efficiently. Neither you nor I can answer that question, because there is no answer. Every car and setup varies, and only a datalogger will tell you how much boost you can get away with.

Lets look at a 14b, running as much boost as the bastard will hold. Typically 25 psi dropping as rpm rises, to 18 or less. The turbo is flat out maxxed out. Is it efficient? No. Does it matter? No. Leon Reitman did just this last saturday and his litle 14b that was way past its efficiency range ran 11.6 at 116 mph. Efficiency isnt everything, and I dont believe it was part of the question that was asked. If it was, I appologize for misreading the thread. You are correct, you dont want to run that kind of boost all day on a turbo that small. But at the track on real gas there is no reason not to. I did say that it needs to be proeprly supported to do so.

[kjewer1]

To answer the other question, the 44 lbs/min was done on a stock airflow sensor. That person just ran 25 psi (spikes to 29 though) and ran 11.9 at 116. The turbo will do more than 25 psi, but go there with a datalogger, and at your own risk.

I saw 40 lbs on a small 16g on my car, at 25 psi, and it was worth a 12.02 at 115. I had only borrowed the turbo for a couple weeks though. I would have liked more time with it to get into the 11s.

[EclipseRST]

Originally Posted by 95 GSXracer

Leon Reitman did just this last saturday and his litle 14b that was way past its efficiency range ran 11.6 at 116 mph.

holy shit... thas all i got to say, i only wish my GST could run 11.6 right now with the 14b! well next week on goes the 20g so it doesnt matter anymore!


btw kevin, do you know what he has to support that 11.6, is it on the stock motor or is it built?

[boostedinaz]

Originally Posted by JoeWagon

Where did I mention running high boost 24/7 on the street? 95 GSXracer said 'will run over 25psi'. When you say "I would only run 22psi MAX" it means at the track, on race gas, etc... to me. That said, I just commented that 22psi is low, like what a schoolgirl would run.

Well apparantly this is an internet name calling match. We both have different versions of what we would do. Thats the beauty of the internet, so many opinions and options. You obviously want to go as fast as possible with a smaller turbo and wring the piss out of it. You definitionof going to the track is beating the hell out of it becasue you are there to make some sort of a point. I go to get better at a particular thing: 60ft, MPH, etc.... I see alot of people going for records or trying to beat this and that when it is an attempt in futilty. There will always be someone faster or with a bigger better part so why try to keep up with the joness.

We'll take that class together, MIchael, because I never said to run 22+ on the street.

I never said you did all i did was point out what I would do. He was asking for some peoples info and that was mine.

Not everyone is a baller. Who goes to the track and expects reliability? If someone wants a reliable car, like what my grandma drives, they won't be seen pushing their car to the limit on the track.

You dont have to be a baller to go fast. If you know your goals and what it takes to obtain them then it is just a matter of time. You can get a 50 trim for 200 more than a 16G and go 11's fairly easy with out beating the snot out of the car. I only want to go mid to low 12's. I could easily do that with a 16G but why go through all that hassle with race gas and changing the tune all the back and forth all the time. I got a 20G and once I get the car back on the road a mid 12 should be pretty easy.


I guess until we fond out what the thread starter has, goal wise, then we will never know if any of this is helpful or not.

Michael



PS. My Grandma just bought a 300C and it went 13.8 bone stock.

[kjewer1]

Originally Posted by EclipseRST

holy shit... thas all i got to say, i only wish my GST could run 11.6 right now with the 14b! well next week on goes the 20g so it doesnt matter anymore!


btw kevin, do you know what he has to support that 11.6, is it on the stock motor or is it built?

THis is the same guy that set the 14b record many years ago at 12.05, again at 11.84, and reset it again last week at the 11.6. Phil beers beat it the first time, then some guys doing a low buck project FWD car ran around 11.7. So he went out and beat it again.

The car ran 10.7 at 135 the end of last year, to give you an idea of how welll it is supported. On a GT13. He ran 11.3 on a 20g 4-5 years ago. The point is this guy tends to do very well. He is a fellow wiseman on tuners, I beleive the SN is GRNDSM. Here is a link to the tuners thread on the run, the 11.6 stuff is near the end. Here's page 8.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/show...light=leon+14b

You can read his profile for the exact mod list.

[EclipseRST]

thats awesome... thanks man!

[Janet Reno]

The evo turbo seems like the best one I've seen so far unless you're shooting for 400+WHP

[BoostedSpyder]

now this is what i'm talking about! great feedback on all ends...

as far as my goals are concerned, i want a great all around streetable turbo. 20g is pushing it as far as the streetable is concerned, for my needs. oh and it's a FWD and that is just way to much power for my taste on a FWD. now if i was directing most of my energy to make a 1320 killer it would be gravy. but most of my driving is going to be off the track, and i'm not sure if i'll ever make it to the track anyways. if i were it would be a totaly different setup, you get me? i want a car that satisfies me.

[kjewer1]

I think the EVO 16g is very well suited to your goals. And its cheap, and doesnt requrie as much support as a 20g might. Go for it

[BoostedSpyder]

and it's wayyyyy cheaper than my OG plan of the 18g!!!

funny thing is about that is that the GReddy 18g is smog legal [means a lot here in So-Cali!] and that was a selling point. however, since my car is no where near smog legal anyways... LOL