stock prelude vs stock type r

[Prelewd]

Originally Posted by SBallerk2

and a Type S Lude does not REV at 7200 I belive it's a lot higher....Ace's...ur such a Prelude HATER!!! get ur self...a stupuid GSR!! already....(and then race a real VTEC PRELUDE MODEL) cause i'm starting to think u swap ur H22 wrong...either u didn't have ur VTEC swap or u must be the worst Prelude driver to think of ur lude not beening so fast u know what it is...those stock rims u got...get some VOLK Racing '17 Alum...and take off ur a/c...cause when ur on a Prelude ur always COOL!!

I'm a prelude hater. I hate to break it to you man, but preludes are slow as hell. I have been in fast cars; I grew up with them. The first car I ever drove everyday was a 300hp Jaguar XJ-S, and the torque and hp coming out of that would smoke the prelude. Plus the thing could run up to about 150 mph, and do it all day. Can your VTEC prelude do 150 all day? I'd sell my lude tomorrow if it was the right price.

It's funny how you say "race a real VTEC PRELUDE MODEL" and then tell him to take out the AC and get aftermarket lightweight rims. AC is a luxury that most "real" preludes came with.

My prelude has served me well. It brought me into modifying cars, learning about tweaking suspension, and allowed me to meet some really cool people (forums), but I am severely ready to move on to something bigger, badder and faster. Go ride in a fast car and you'll know what I'm talking about.

*If I had a boosted prelude, I wouldn't be bitching.

[AcesHigh]

With all due respect, SBallerk2.. you are a complete dumbass. There's more to acceleration than horsepower, and why don't you do some research before you spout some incoherent garbage.

First of all, the type S Prelude's redline *is* 7200, so says Honda themselves: http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/p...de_data/s.html. I trust Honda more than I do you.

Second of all, the stock Prelude rims were designed to be balanced for the car's suspension. Messing with that messes with the geometry of the car... and frankly, bigger isn't always better. If you feel there's something you need to compensate with, don't do it with rim size.

The RSX weighs around 2760 lbs. Our "beloved Prelude" weighs nearly 3000. You do the math.

With that said, Prelewd has pretty much tidied up what I was going to say. The Honda Prelude is not the end all to all cars, and having a sense of modesty goes a long ways when you are comparing cars. I have driven the STi's and 300zx's and have long since yearned for that kind of power on my Prelude. There's a bigger world out there.

I don't want a GSR, or even an ITR. But I would give up my Prelude for a VR4 in a heartbeat.

[crzyCollegeKid]

dude...go to a race track. preludes are NOTHING. i own one, i love it. but for the love of god, they haven't been made since 2001. i know moore's law doesn't apply to cars, but cars do advance over the years and ludes just don't cut it anymore unless your boosting, even then, they're still no match for other boosted cars.

[Prelewd]

Originally Posted by AcesHigh

Second of all, the stock Prelude rims were designed to be balanced for the car's suspension. Messing with that messes with the geometry of the car... and frankly, bigger isn't always better. If you feel there's something you need to compensate with, don't do it with rim size.

Just to play devil's advocate.. I believe there was a certain amount of ride quality that factored into the decision to use 15" rims.. I do agree, however, that bigger isn't always better. 16"ers are perfect for preludes IMO.

[510prelude]

ok this thread has officially convinced me not to get another lude, ill try nissan next i guess

*just kidding i love my lude

[Veetec]

Originally Posted by AcesHigh

First of all, the type S Prelude's redline *is* 7200, so says Honda themselves: http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/p...de_data/s.html. I trust Honda more than I do you.

I am not 100% sure but doesn´t that mean that the Type-S produces 220hp at 7.200rpm and not that the redline starts there?!?
I can´t read most of the article because of the language....

[SBallerk2]

....I feel sorry for ur.....Prelude's...they most be like "the prelude" fuck here comes this dump azz that doesn't even know how to make me go fast...dude....stock cars!!! always suck!!! u guys r so stupid.....drive ur stock cars then drive a suit up LUDE and u'll c what i'm taking about a 300ZX suck!! I beating 2 before....nuff said...f all u prelude haters!! and the RSX does not weight 2700 and the 4th gen does not weight 3000 pounds ace's fuck off...

[SBallerk2]

dude that RSX most atleast weight 3000 pounds...looks like a mini-mini van just the like the Si

[SBallerk2]

and about the Type S i wouldn't be taking if I'm u "Ace's" u don't shit u talk like u do but u really don't u didn't even know about the Type S...i bet u didn't even know that the type s was a 5th gen and not a 4th gen....and that there is not one but two f-motors for the prelude....yep that's right both a 2.2's one is the single cam which we all know and the other one is a f22b twin cam...yep twin cam that comes a long on a Jap. Accord 94-97 but is a direct fit...into the 4th gen...ha, and don't start with that shit that there isn't a 2.2 twin cam engine for the 4th gen prelude 4th gen that isn't the h23 2.3 do ur homework!!!

[SBallerk2]

and about the Jag. shit it better be a lot faster then a Prelude if it cost 3 times much then an MSRP Prelude but if u ask me...i'll take the Prelude and spent the rest of the money left on the prelude to suit it up and i'll be at least 3 times faster then that stupid jag will ever me...and u'll still have a lot more money on my pocket and a show car that will be faster then that jag will ever be since it's a Jag. it's already on it's limits....bet u didn't know that Jag's....mercedes etc. can't be modified more then the factory already did while a Honda/toyota etc. looks to fulfill the consumer with bargain's and they must also follow strict safety rules since much more people buy honda's then a Jag. therefor honda has to limit there car's to much greater degree....which limits them from producing much Type R' taking out the prelude typse S (which we could only dream of owning and trust me if there was a U.S. Type S Lude we wouldn't even be talking about teg's or GST's etc. beating lude's) yeah i'm sure there's been some people who have swapped Type S's but i could of sold u an H22 and said it was a type S's...besides a model is always better suited then the swap....(ace's this applies to u) so yeah... let's race

Jag. MSRP $45,000
2001 5th Gen Type SH about $18,000
so i got about 27,000 dollars left to built my engine to it's fulliest...ha...!!! i could turbo,nos it etc.

built it up to around atleast 500HP!! making it twice ass fast as ur Jag. plus i would still have about half the money from the 27,000 still on my pocket!!! so who has the faster,better,showroom car??? yeah!!! eat ur words

[AcesHigh]

Actually Veetec, I think the site's trying to say that peak torque is reached at 6.5k, and the redline that allows HP to exceed torque is at 7.2k. Where Horsepower = (Torque x RPM)/5252. I can't read Japanese either

Prelewd, I was moreso talking about the wheel offset than the wheel diameter. Since I haven't tried larger wheels yet, I'll have to go with what you say.

SBallerk2, you have not beaten (and cannot beat) the 300zx TT. Go look up the curb weight for the RSX before you start saying anything. Civics for example look like they are as heavy as Preludes, but they are several hundred pounds lighter. You can't assess a car's weight on how it "looks". Weigh your damn car.

That f22b is not made for a Prelude. It sucks either way. No one wants one in their car.

Are you talking about the Type S or Type SH? Jesus. The ATTS on the Type SH isn't all it's cracked up to be, and many SH owners disable it to reach greater power levels. It was made to be a good handler, not to go really fast on a drag strip. You can tell the S-h22a against a regular h22a from the design of its pistons. Besides, you can exceed the horsepower on a Type S by putting in stronger pistons in a standard h22a.

We aren't here to say the Prelude sucks. But we do accept our limitations, and so should you. Unless you're sporting some high end custom turbocharger setup with a full lower end engine buildup and complete engine management system... I'd advise you being less cocky and getting educated on cars before you open your damn mouth.

[Veetec]

Originally Posted by AcesHigh

Actually Veetec, I think the site's trying to say that peak torque is reached at 6.5k, and the redline that allows HP to exceed torque is at 7.2k. Where Horsepower = (Torque x RPM)/5252. I can't read Japanese either

After a second look at your link this seems to be right to me!

But that would mean that the redline starts somewhere above 7.200rpm, wouldn´t it!?

[whtteg]

Originally Posted by SBallerk2

dude...there's no way the RSX WEIGHTS LIGHER THEN A PRELUDE 4th GEN!!!....VTEC Prelude would atleast keep up with either of those car's.....RSX OR TYPE R

Instead of making an uneducated comment like this, why don't you do some research and provide evidence that what you are saying is true? I could say "Hey there is no way a Corvette Z06 is faster than a Ford escort" But it does not make it true! Can you see what I am getting at here? If not what I am tring to tell you and anybody else who posts stupid replies like this, is that without any kind of facts in a reply of this nature you look like a complete moron.

[SiGNAL748]

I love my lude, i love integras, i love rsx's, i love hondas. Unfortunately honda motors have one major problem. They have us stuck running 14's and 15's for the rest of our lives, some lucky ones may be able to dip into the 13's if they're lucky, but most of us are content with that, i don't care what anyone else has to say. Sure...you could put some major money into your honda and have it running 600whp of beast pushing you into the 9's and 10's. But, WHY? Unless you're set out to own the world's fastest honda, get yourself a ferrari for christ sakes.

Hondas are slow. Have a nice day.

Did I mention i love hondas?

[lude_si]

I own a prelude and i love it. I wanna mod it, engine and exterior. I could make it look beautiful and be pretty quick and be happy about it. People see my car more than they race my car so if i have a tricked out lude im gonna get a lot more attention that if i have a stock 350 IMO. but damn would i love my lude to be as fast or as pretty as a supra
PS i know this post is stupid and completly off subject but i dont care