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I've been dying to see this film for over a year. Originally there was going to be no subtitles with all the Arabic, but I'm glad they decided to add them in because the script contains some of the most beautiful dialogue I've read in a while.
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i think of it as funny as people saying that it's extremely graphic....i just say well that's the closest to showing how it was like back then without trying to develop a time machine to go back in time then....i'm not sure if i'm going to see it, but i thought that it would have been better to have it opening up on Good Friday
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I am trying to get tickets for Friday night and go with some friends from my church, if I could I would go opening night. I think its BS that Mel Gibson is catching so much crap over him making a movie.
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I can't wait to see it. I think its good that he's trying to keep it as factual as possible. And not just through his own eyes.
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Won't have a chance for a few weeks, but looking forward to seeing it. For now, about the only useful thing I can say is that the movie should not stir up anti-semitism, as some have feared. Gibson has been straightforward that the involvement of the Jewish leadership in the death of my boss does not lay blame on a few select individuals.
After the movie, I'll send a review to our local paper, starting "My name is Kevin and I am personally responsible for the death of Jesus of Nazareth. If anyone else would like to accept some responsibility, they're welcome to do so." I'm told that the close-up of a Roman soldier's arm when Jesus is being nailed to the cross actually shows Gibson's own arm. That would be a pretty clear display of whom he holds responsible first...himself. Hopefully, present-day Jewish folks will not be offended. It's not an exact parallel, but I wouldn't expect present-day people of the city of Rome to take offense at seeing ancient Roman brutality. My own faults are enough for me to say that what happened on the Cross is as ugly as loss of life can get, but as beautiful as love can be. I needed Him to die for me. Anyone interested might enjoy looking over Philippians 2:6-11. I'd like to go see the movie privately, and have a few days to think and pray before I form a response. But I'm always in the public eye because I'm a Catholic priest, and one of the 10,000 people in the parish is bound to bump into me at the theater. Supposedly, the pope said after seeing it that "It is as it was." But he said later the same day, I'm told, that he wasn't ready to give the movie a official endorsement. This would be due largely to the fact that he doesn't get involved in endorsements. When he wrote "Crossing the Threshold of Hope" and "The Theology of the Body" he didn't give his own books an offical endorsement, either.
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Re: Not anti-semitic, at least. Could be great.
Does any realise that its just a movie made by a talanted entertainer (he's more than a mere actor) with a misguided passion for money and religion?
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I don't really mind the fact that he made the movie, if thats what he needed to do to make himself happy thats great, personally I think he would have been better off putting the money toward something more useful like helping poor people of feeding people that can't afford food. but whatever, I wish I would have found this thread earlier than I wouldn't have posted one in stress release about the same topic.
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Maybe with all the money he makes from the movie he might put some towards charity, but who knows. i think the movie will be good, our senior class might be going to see it, because i goto catholic highschool.
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I will see it too but not this weekend. I heard that the movie has a powerful effect on people (a good way). I just think that if we lived and loved like Jesus did our society would be better. I do not think it will cause anti-Semitism, there are plenty of other movies about Jesus, and like the ones shown every Easter and they have not caused anti-Semitism. I am praying that all goes well for the movie and that people will not use it as an excuse to cause harm to others. With that said even if that happens movies do not cause people to do bad things. Peops must take responsibility for there own actions and not say that a movie caused them to do something bad. I believe this to be true for all movies. I didn't like it when folks said The Matrix caused folks to shoot people and what not. Just my cents worth ![]() alfred
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Re: money for movie or for the poor?
Regarding the suggstion that Gibson's money would have been better spent relieving poverty... I certainly agree that relieving poverty is good to do and we all have a duty as human beings to do what we can for others. I very pleased that the Catholic Church is largest provider of health care for the poor in the world, and that we do a great deal to feed the hungry throughout the world. As a man of faith, I'd like to say that this work of the Church is sustained by love of God and our neighbor. This means that the more profoundly we embrace our faith, the more motivated and effective we will be in serving the poor. Investing $25 mil in a movie that aims to stir up faith may prove to be very good for the poor. And ultimately, the most important part of the Church's mission to the poor is to care for their spiritual needs.
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That being said, I'm going to go into the theatre without any predetermined mindset, because being a Christian it would be easy to go into it and come out thinkinking that it is the most complete and extraordinary depiction of the death and ressurection ever produced (That is what happend the first time I saw F&F in theatres. I already had that movie, in my mind, as the greatest movie of all times. Once I bought the movie and watched it again after all the hype faded, I found it to be the worste thing I ever viewed on my television. I wanted to get rid of my television and dvd player just because it was tainted by that horrific production.) I already know a lot of the background of the story so it would be easy for me to fill in the spaces that the movie may leave out. I think that there is a lot of passion that went into this movie, but passion without balance may not arouse people's convictions and draw them near to Christ, which is the main objective of this film (not to make money, for those who have this implanted into their minds.) The fact that Mel used a lot of his own resources to fund the movie re-enforces that he's not in it for the money, but there is not doubt in my mind that he will come out on top of this money-wise. Anyway, I'll have an opinion formed after tonight.
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Did you ever see the movie, or has anyone seen the movie? If so, what did you guys think?
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I saw it last night. I really enjoyed it. I thought that the violent content was totally necessary in order to convey the true setting of the crucifixion. It followed the Gospels pretty well, with some extra effects thrown in (it IS a theatrical production). I saw those as guides or tools to emphasize certain moods or the whole good vs. evil theme. It really brought to light exactly how much punishment Christ endured for humanity.
If I were viewing from the eyes of a Biblically uneducated person, I think that I would have found myself unclear of what was happening at a couple of points in the movie, but I don't follow movies too well anyway so maybe it's just me. All and all I think it was a powerful movie and it really opened my eyes to the reality of his suffering. God bless
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/0...eut/index.htmland here's something that's quite strange about the whole movie
Report: Woman dies watching 'Passion' CHICAGO, Illinois (Reuters) --A woman died of an apparent heart attack Wednesday while watching the climactic crucifixion scene in "The Passion of the Christ" at a morning showing in Wichita, Kansas, a television station reported.The film was stopped and a nurse in attendance went to the woman's side, KAKE-TV in Wichita reported."It was the highest emotional part of the movie," a spokeswoman for the station said. A crew from the station was at the special showing, which was sponsored by the ClearChannel Radio chain.The Wichita Eagle newspaper, on its Web site, identified the woman as Peggy Scott, 56, a sales manager for two local radio stations.Employees at KAKE-TV said they knew the woman as Peggy Law, adding they did not think she had any pre-existing health problems.The woman was pronounced dead at a nearby hospital, where a spokesman would only say she had been attending a movie. The county coroner's office said an autopsy would be performed.Mel Gibson's film, which opened Wednesday, has been both criticized and praised for its violent, bloody portrayal of Christ's final hours. |
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