Enzo vs. F1

[freakonaleash1187]

i hope you only mean in top speed straight line would the f1 beat the enzo. because in acceleration, then enzo would beat the f1.

[TatII]

you guys are comparing the u.s spec mclaren to the enzo. why not compare the european spec? i'm not sure of the exact rating, but it is considerably faster then the u.s. spec. also sure the enzo can outgun the F1 to 100. but after that the f1 will catch up, and past it easily by 170mph. the enzo is designed for maximum downforce, which as we all know causes lots of drag and it kills highend speed, where the F1 is much lighter and only makes slightly less power then the F1 and is alot more sleeker. of course the enzo would beat the F1 in the corners, but the F1 would beat it in the straights. i'll link you a fare comparison from site that is not biased at all,

and don't forget to look at the mclaren SLR. from the way mark wan described it, it seems to have disgraced the mclaren name.

http://autozine.kyul.net/html/Ferrari2.htm#Enzo

here is the quote for those who are too lazy to click

The wait is over. Ferrari Enzo is finally tested in a fair condition by a third party. In the July 2003 issue of R&T, the magazine borrowed an Enzo from owner Richard Losee, travelling for 1000 miles to the Bonneville Salt Flats of Utah to see its real-world performance and then back to California for performance recording in a proving ground. In the end, they recorded the following figures:

0-60 mph: 3.3 sec
0-100 mph: 6.6 sec
1/4 mile: 11.1 sec @ 133.0mph

Base on these figures, R&T declared that the Enzo is faster than McLaren F1 ! it said the F1 they tested a few years ago did 0-60 in 3.4 sec and 1/4 mile in 11.6 sec @125mph. However, it did not mention that that particular F1 was not a standard European version, as it was converted by the owner to meet the US regulations. If we take Autocar’s test data for the standard car, you will see the F1 was faster still:

0-60 mph: 3.2 sec
0-100 mph: 6.3 sec
1/4 mile: 11.1 sec @ 138mph

From the time of 0-100mph and the terminal speed of 1/4 mile, you can easily see the higher the speed, the faster the McLaren is compared with Enzo.

That’s not surprising to me. Remember, the Enzo is more than 200 kilograms heavier than the F1. Sophisticated launch control of the 21st century may help it to reduce tyre slippage at launch thus match the F1 for the first quarter mile, but once the F1 get rolling, the rate it accelerate will be much higher than the Ferrari. The point is, at this level of competition, there is no miracle can negate the deficit in power-to-weight ratio, which favours the McLaren overwhelmingly. At higher speed, another scientific parameter - drag coefficient and frontal area - says the Enzo can only lose more. The McLaren can reach 200mph in 28 seconds dead. I would be very surprised if Ferrari Enzo can do that within 30 sec. Believe me.

and about the mclaren SLR. here is the link to that

http://autozine.kyul.net/html/Mercedes6.htm#SLR

[freakonaleash1187]

im from america so i will compare the enzo to the american spec f1. so thats one reason i say the enzo is the better one. plus, imo, i think the enzo looks a lot better.

[moslerporschefreak]

For a full comparison, no I would choose the best from both comapnies (again though not going with any GTR or LM). Basically, what we have here is a yes answer. One will win on a very winding course, the other ona more open one. Huh, pick your poison I guess...

[Neutrino]

I'll pick the Enzo.

the F1 IMO is a paperwork racing car. As specified in that article posted by TATII it compromises wheel base and downforce to acheive its numbers.

So i guess if all you care is going fast in a straight line buy the F1, but if you want to go fast on a track get the Enzo.


True I have yet to see any side by side numbers on a track but IMO the Enzo will simply dominate the F1

[Mr Payne]

Originally Posted by freakonaleash1187

i hope you only mean in top speed straight line would the f1 beat the enzo. because in acceleration, then enzo would beat the f1.

I've heard the F1 accelerates from 0-150mph in 12.8 SECONDS. That is mind boggling.

[moslerporschefreak]

I;m hoping the pro-Enzo's are right. As much as I love the F1, it really is time for a new king

[Lamborsari_Merbini]

The F1 has been considered THE supercar for a long time now. I like the enzos design much more though and although the Mclaren name is always gonna be linked with speed the ferrari name has looks and who is really gonna care about the small differences in speed and accel. at that money looks and name is the key and comparable stats(as long as they are close)

[freakonaleash1187]

yes, lamborsari merbini summed it up perfectly, kudos to you.

[Lamborsari_Merbini]

thanx freakonaleash

[broddie50]

Well its about time someone can at least challenge the McLaren. It took several years for the rest of the supercar world to catch up this masterpiece. And from a few articles I have read, the new GT-40 goes tit for tat with the enzo in just about every performance test for about 1/5 of the price. Don't get me wrong, I love the enzo, but as far as setting the bar, no car set as high for its time as the mighty f1

[TatII]

well i wouldn't say a ferrari has a better sounding name then a mclaren. first of all, the mclaren is still the most expensive super car around. it costed 1 million dollars and that was back in the mid 90's when it was introduced. 2, it was just a small company lead by gordon murray that made such a crazy car that no other company such as ferrari could top even in such a long time. i mean how long did it take for ferrari with all its R & D to top the mclaren? i mean it look a freaking long time. the F1 was never designed to be the fastest car in the world. it was just designed to be a true drivers car that is liveable. yet it just happens to turn out that way.

[moslerporschefreak]

With regards to the new Ford GT, where'd you get that it rivals the enzo. I saw in CD that they said that but something was up. Every other test puts it squarely in competition with the 360 and Gallardo, not the big dogs.

[Mr Payne]

Every other test? The two other tests that have been done with it? It simply depends how the GT shows up to customers as. If it's dyno 570rwhp for customer cars, well then who is going to complain.

[broddie50]

Look at what I said: for a 1/5 of the price it is in the enzo's league in 0-60, 1/4 mile, braking and cornering. I don't if it was a ringer, just restating what I read (one of the big three mags). I know who they aimed the gt at, the 360 stradale which it pretty much spanked at the road course and test track. The gallardo would probably be more of a match for it. I love the enzo, but it's not in a league of its own the way the f1 was when first introduced.