How can anyone buy a KIA???

[SEDONA]

Originally posted by NismoDrifts
does kia have a sport compact or entry level sportscar?

Everything that KIA has is entry level. I would NEVER consider anything that they make to be a "sports car". For some reason, the KIAs around the rest of the world are excellent quality... when it comes to Trucks, Vans and Haulers. The heavy-duty machines are built pretty well. The cars, on the other hand, are apparently intended to service the people who need cheap rides... to get to the jobs where they drive the real KIAs.

When KIA decides to put the engine that's in the Sedona into one of their cars, and also decides to build this car with the same care that they've used with the Sedona... I might just look at it. I would love to test a KIA sedan/sports car with a V-6, 5-speed with overdrive, and the solid construction of the larger vehicles.

Hey Koojo, nobody's ignorant enough to think that a KIA engine will ever compete with the ones that I put in modifieds. I'll NEVER claim that the KIA engines are even near the quality of a Daimler. I do, however, know the massive increase in quality... as do the quality assessment bureaus in North America.


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[jmac77]

I am enjoying the ride in my new Kia Rio, and yes even though it is a cheap in cost car, I have to say I'm very happy with how it handles, economy, and even it's looks ain't so bad. Is a 2001 with 8K miles and not a stitch of a problem to date. I don't care what anyone else has to say about them in the negative, but I like what my few bucks purchased. I say, if any car manufacturer puts an abundance of mileage upon their warantee's, they must believe in what they are building, no? How can anyone "lose" by forking out $10K with a 100K power train backup? And oh, let's not forget too that their's also the 50K mile warantee on much else of their products. And who was it that started this long warantee stuff anyway? Chevrolet? Ford? Honda? Toyota? No! It was the Korean's. Doh! Go figure! Thanks for hearing my happiness in my little car. :sun:

[G20 SpoRt 2002]

Originally posted by graphXtrend.com
Nothing. Just wanted to know what you guys think of the graphics.

To much color dude..

[Sadiztik]

Besides the Rio

Kia just sucks

there interest rates suck, there safety suck, there reliability suck

[LadyBuickGS]

Originally posted by Sadiztik
Besides the Rio

Kia just sucks

there interest rates suck, there safety suck, there reliability suck

I guess you've never driven or heard of a Sedona...

Sedona's have a 5 star crash rating and I've heard good things about them from customers. I should know...I work at a Kia dealer.

I think given time, Kia will try to improve on the quality of their other vehicles as well.

What they should do is give the Spectra a quicker 4 cyl engine, then maybe it will do better against civics, etc...

[auxiliary2600]

I have one word for ya.

KIA

I have two words for ya.

Big Dump.

Me too not sure whay you would buy a Kia, I rather buy an old used car and get a new paint job for it or something. Who cares about the warranty

[Melt]

Kia's seem to be getting better, personally if I were to go for a korean car I would get the hyundai tiburon. Peep this:

[boingo82]

My problem with KIA motors is this:

They have recently begun a deliberate attempt to deface Nissan motors by causing consumer confusion.

Take for instance:
KIA recently changed the Sephia's name to Spectra, which JUST SO HAPPENS to rhyme with Sentra, the Nissan in the same class. The Sentra is a recommended buy according to Consumer Reports, whereas regarding the Spectra, they said, "You'd have to search far and wide to find a worse new car than the Spectra. Available as either a four-door hatchback or a conventional sedan, it's essentially the same as the now-defunct Sephia. The Sephia sedan we tested suffered from an awful ride, a noisy cabin, a crude, unrefined powertrain, uncomfortable seats, and clumsy handling. Cabin materials felt cheap and insubstantial, and weak detents allowed the doors to swing shut--sometimes on a leg--when the car was parked on an incline. The Spectra sedan also received a poor offset-crash-test score from the IIHS. "

In addition, Kia's mid-level car, the Optima, was introduced last year to compete with Nissan's Altima. Not only do the two names rhyme, but they are synonymous. Unfortunately, the public is already being confused by Kia's marketing ploy. In an article about cigarettes soaked in embalming fluid earlier this year, Details Magazine referred to a "Nissan Optima". If KIA wishes to sell cars by offering a great warranty and mediocre cars, more power to them. The fact that they are attempting to ride on Nissan's coattails disgusts me.

[Grendel]

Originally posted by boingo82
The fact that they are attempting to ride on Nissan's coattails disgusts me.

Amen to that...

-Grendel

[Melt]

Never noticed that before, its looking like KIA is a bunch of sneaky SOB's. Although my 2cents on a couple of Nissans.

The Sentra Spec V comes standard with 17's and without lowering springs, it rides way to high.

The new Altima looks like shit in my opionion. I liked the 2000 model year better.

Now dont label me as a hater because I drive a Honda Civic. I looked at many cars before buying mine. Those cars include:
1993 Toyota Corolla (sold before I could buy it)
1991 Civic Hatchback (camber issues)
1985 CRX SI (too many miles)
1994 Nissan Sentra (guy wanted too much)
1992 Nissan Sentra (interior was shit)
1991 Toyota Truck (body damage which I noticed later)
1987 Nissan Truck with Extended cab (sold before I could buy it, and man this truck was SWEET)
1994 Toyota Trecel (timing belt broke while engine was running)

Also again bagging on the altima, does anyone else thinks it COSTS TOO MUCH? My friend who has a 2000 which she bought new paid like $25,000. If I had $25,000 I would much rather get a Integra Type-R.

[Swoxy]

I think Kia's are good cars and just like every manufacturer have come along way from when they first started. They are starting to get some styling into their cars and I think in a few years will be accepted as just another make.

[Hudson]

I think it's funny when someone complains that one company is targeting another...especially with an inane argument like their model names rhyme.

Let's see....maybe Honda, Subaru, and Daewoo should be upset by their naming similarities.....Legend, Legacy, Leganza. Hmm.....

Or....shouldn't GM be upset that Nissan chose to replace the 210 with the Sentra? Sounds an awful lot like Century to me. How about Toyota with the Sienna and Ford with the Sierra and Oldsmobile with the Ciera and GMC with the Sierra? Oh....and there's the Chevrolet, GMC and Plymouth Suburbans.

Kia cars are good. They're not great, but they're good. The Optima (a name Chrysler used only a few years ago for a mid-sized car concept) is an excellent car in its market. The Sedona is a very good minivan. Even the Spectra (with a stick) is a good car.

As for Kia having a sports car. They had an excellent sports car powered by a poor, at the time, Kia motor. The Kia Elan was purchased from Lotus and would have made an excellent addition to their North American fleet...if only they had the right engine for it.

[boingo82]

Originally posted by Hudson
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Kia cars are good. ..... Even the Spectra (with a stick) is a good car.....

Originally said by Consumer Reports
..."You'd have to search far and wide to find a worse new car than the Spectra. Available as either a four-door hatchback or a conventional sedan, it's essentially the same as the now-defunct Sephia. The Sephia sedan we tested suffered from an awful ride, a noisy cabin, a crude, unrefined powertrain, uncomfortable seats, and clumsy handling. Cabin materials felt cheap and insubstantial, and weak detents allowed the doors to swing shut--sometimes on a leg--when the car was parked on an incline. The Spectra sedan also received a poor offset-crash-test score from the IIHS. "

And none of the models you mentioned were competing models in the same class in the same time frame. That is what I'm speaking of. I stick to my conspiracy theory.

[DMC12]

Originally posted by LadyBuickGS
I guess you've never driven or heard of a Sedona...

I think I've heard about them... All Sedonas were recalled to replace the engines, right?

[Melt]

There is a RIO in town with I/H/E and NAWWWWWWWWWWSSSSS that is smoking hella cars, but that engine is seriously gonna blow up.