1st Step: SHOW or SPEED???

[JDMDB7]

I mean there are tons of different turbos, tons of different components, plenty of kits, etc, etc. And still, turbos aren't for everyone. On a scale of 1-10 I'd say a turbo Honda needs an owner with a mechanical skill level of 6 to keep it maintained properly. It's not just bolt on and forget about it. There are kits that are less intensive than others, but you have to remember that you're asking your engine to do something that it was never meant to do. If you want a trouble-free turbo setup you'll have to buy a car that came stock with a turbo (like a 1.8T Jetta or a Neon SRT-4). Aftermarket kits are always going to have some "kinks".

[TSRyder6]

ooo i see, well that answers all of my questions. Since a Car owner with a turbo kit needs to have some skill and theres always gonna be "kinks" i guess a turbo isn't for me i should just make my car a Show car. Thanks.

[tran_nsx]

Originally Posted by TSRyder6

ooo i see, well that answers all of my questions. Since a Car owner with a turbo kit needs to have some skill and theres always gonna be "kinks" i guess a turbo isn't for me i should just make my car a Show car. Thanks.

hey don't let these guys scare u away from speed. they mean well, but its not simple as that. modifying your car for speed is an ongoing process, it can take months or even years to get your car at a speed u desire. well, to be honest u can't relly be satisfied with speed, that goes for show also since people always want to improve what they already have. an example, people with 17 sec cars want 16s, 16 sec car want 15, 15 sec car want 14's and on and on. after reaching 9 or 10 sec 1/4 miles, some people still aren't satified. my point, modifying your car is a long, tedious, and fun journey, but as u go along your knowledge for becoming a racing guru will only accumulate to where most of these kinks can be smooth out. lastly, good luck on your path of direction, i on the other hand would want both show and go but prefer more on the go side.

[TSRyder6]

well since Turbo can cause problems. What kind of problems does the Turbo cause? One guy already told me stalling. Is there any other? And is there a way that you can prevent these problems or maybe have less than more??

[tran_nsx]

first decide which route u want to go. putting a turbo is not cheap, this could be one of the reason why many people don't have them another could be that u have to observe everything to make sure everything is running smoothly. u never know, u might be very happy with some bolt ons or even going n/a, by the way u never did tell us what model integra either. if turbo is in your future, then i reccomend u start doing searches in the n20/supercharger/turbocharger forum. no offense to any of these guys but theres a lot of info in that section, not to mention theres a couple guys with turbocharged integras that can assist u.

[JDMDB7]

I don't know about stalling...unless he means a poor idle.

A perfectly done turbo system doesn't have any problems. The thing is, few if any turbo projects end up being perfect. Nobody builds parts with the same quality/fitment of the auto manufacturer. That's why I say if you want a perfect turbo system with absolute reliability go for a car with a factory turbo.

Aftermarket turbo systems can have problems as small as an idle glitch to a cracked sleeve (blown motor) the first time you crank it over. The quality of the kit and the knowledge of the installer/owner determine a lot of this, but it's still impossible to tell you exactly what you'll be up against.

It's not as simple as "If you buy X turbo kit you will only have Y problem Z number of times." That would be nice, but it's just not the case.

If you want to know what's possible...
-traction issues
-drivetrain breakages
-clutch life shortened
-oil consumption
-premature catalytic converter failure
-cracked exhaust manifolds
-blown motors (cylindar sleeve, piston, rod, crank bearings, etc.)
-blown head gasket
-overheating
-poor gas mileage

...Or you may have no problems at all. There's just no definite answer for this quesiton.

[TSRyder6]

well... i'm currently looking at the GReddy Turbo Kit (kinda like it) but if i get a turbo kit i'll still drive my car normally u kno. I'm not planning to put in a turbo and go every night and pressure my car, you kno. So if i get a turbo kit and i drive my car normal non fast or crazy, will that reduce some of the problems that you mentioned??

[JDMDB7]

Maybe yes, maybe no.

[TSRyder6]

man than i'm throwing my money away by buying a turbo kit, plus i'm gonna blow my engine.!

[whtteg]

Originally Posted by tran_nsx

hey don't let these guys scare u away from speed. they mean well, but its not simple as that. modifying your car for speed is an ongoing process, it can take months or even years to get your car at a speed u desire. well, to be honest u can't relly be satisfied with speed, that goes for show also since people always want to improve what they already have. an example, people with 17 sec cars want 16s, 16 sec car want 15, 15 sec car want 14's and on and on. after reaching 9 or 10 sec 1/4 miles, some people still aren't satified. my point, modifying your car is a long, tedious, and fun journey, but as u go along your knowledge for becoming a racing guru will only accumulate to where most of these kinks can be smooth out. lastly, good luck on your path of direction, i on the other hand would want both show and go but prefer more on the go side.

HAHA I have a 14 sec car and I am not satisfied But this hit it right on the head, very good post IMO

[TSRyder6]

ait yall so TURBO is a GOOD or BAD idea??

[KrNxRaCer00]

u wanna push ur motor to the limits and keep seeing changes in ur et (turbo motor takes better to mod's than MOST n/a will), it's GOOD.

u wanna grocery getter that will get over 25 mpg, while being completely as "safe" as u can be w/ ur motor, its bad.

really depends on wut u want man...they've laid out the pro's/con's of it. u have to decide if its worth it to YOU to turbo ur motor. w/ this many doubts however, i personally wouldn't go into it half-hearted. learn about motors/turbo's for a while, then if u change ur mind, sweet. start saving and turbo the teg. if u never decide to, sweet as well, u'll have a car that'll most likely run upwards of 200k, and will last u until u upgrade/down-grade from it.

good luck.

[tran_nsx]

Originally Posted by whtteg

HAHA I have a 14 sec car and I am not satisfied But this hit it right on the head, very good post IMO

thanks whtteg

[tran_nsx]

Originally Posted by TSRyder6

ait yall so TURBO is a GOOD or BAD idea??

ok, please try to stay away from these broad questions, i don't know about the other guys but im starting to get annoyed by them. heres my best simplest answer; it's good if u want to go fast and u know what u are doing, it's bad if u don't want to go fast and have no clue what u are doing. theres a lot of info floating around so do the research. the site whtteg gave is quite beneficial so read it, if u want some more just ask. i don't want to help u with questions i know and then near the end of the discussion u just say screw it im going for show. now u just wasted my time and i bet most of these other guy's times. again, research, research, research.

another thing i want to mention, i have a friend whose in his late 40's living down the street and he's a damn awesome mechanic, but when it some to turbos and its apllication he doesn't know squat. its really too bad because i was hoping he could've of help me with mine, that is once i eventually get it.

[94tegRS]

my next teg I am starting off with just a bit of show to set it apart. dropped/rims/tint/lip kit and then working on the go, once that is finished I can go back and top of the show with anything I still wanna do.