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Old 01-11-2004, 10:16 PM
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i believe you beat him, but i believe what happen was he didn't think you were gonna race and once he seen that you were he took of to go catch you. as far as the freeway, i've raced crx's and civics on the freeway and played with them by barely staying in front of them because i know they can't go any faster. i'm assuming thats what happend, but its a possibility that his launch was so so horrible that it took him 6 car lengths to recover.

but like you said, you know we don't
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Horrible launch in how, he had a lot of wheel spin? So what even with a lot of wheelspin it would of been able to fly right past you. My Firebird being a whole second slower than that SRT-4 I gurantee I could sit there for a few seconds just spinning the tires like crazy and still have time to blow your doors off, an SRT-4 should have a much easier time doing the same thing.

I don't understand how thats possible but if the guy was actually racing then you just got one hell of a win. Good job I guess...
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Re: I pwned an SRT-4

With all the flaming that happens here, I am suprised you had the balls to post at all. Good on ya!
Look, he said the guy peeled out and screwed up. He didn't say his car was faster. Simply put, I believe what he is trying to say is his driving skills were superior to the srt, so it takes more than a fast car to win a race....
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ok....

well, considering it was the street an basically anything can happen there...props to u.
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Re: Re: I pwned an SRT-4

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With all the flaming that happens here, I am suprised you had the balls to post at all. Good on ya!
Look, he said the guy peeled out and screwed up. He didn't say his car was faster. Simply put, I believe what he is trying to say is his driving skills were superior to the srt, so it takes more than a fast car to win a race....

yes we all know that...but its still a bit hard to believe...not sure if you keep up with the cars that we have here in the us but those srt4 are right down monsters..stock they are capable of high 13's and they respond extremelly well to mods 1500 USD will put you in mid 12's

i've just watched again a vid of an srt4 here at rocky mountain raceway(over 4000 feet altitude) and it bogged the car something awefull off the line and still pulled a 14.80 quater

so you understand why is so hard to belive..that srt4 driver had to be extremelly bad
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Re: I pwned an SRT-4

I stand corrected I guess. I don't really follow the american cars as much, but I have seen my share of unlikely defeats...
Over here we have a car called a Starlet Glanza V. It is a single turbo 1.3 litre little hatchback. I watched one absolutely smoke a s15 sylvia with a turbine swap (ask JOJO from velocity as he was standing right beside me). Sometimes in racing, the unlikely happens, but rarely the impossible. I have to go with the mod on this one. If you did beat him, like I said before, good on ya. If this is one of those situations where the BS is chin deep, remember, "fool me once shame on me....."

Neutrino, being as I am too lazy to look it up, fill me in on the srt4
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Re: Re: I pwned an SRT-4

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Hey carrrnuttt im ready for a rematch. Ive become a better driver. I know how to launch my car properly. Oh btw, i dont care if no one belives me. I did it and i dont care.
I never said I didn't believe you. I just said I don't where you are coming-off saying that you "pwned" him.

As for the race, I've been busy with school lately, so I'll have to see when I can meet with ya.
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Re: I pwned an SRT-4

My car is possible to have a low 15 sec 1/4, i belive i was right around there. But guessing by the speed i was at (70) we ran about an 1/8 mile. Its possible that he couldnt make up the difference in the time frame, what we have a 1.2 second difference. Its all possible. Hell even if i had the shitty start like he did i wouldnt have been able to catch up in the distance we did.
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Re: I pwned an SRT-4

Well if it was a 1/8 maybe...but he must have really messed his launch. Anyways turbo that thing and own some real drivers.
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Re: Re: I pwned an SRT-4

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Neutrino, being as I am too lazy to look it up, fill me in on the srt4
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Well the srt4 it’s in a way the new omni GLH....big turbo engine in a small car....

The engine is ridiculously strong you can find more details about it here:
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/pr...0scc_projneon/

It puts more to the wheels than its factory rated at the crank...many of them especially the 04's put over 230 WHP and 250 WTQ

And mopar offers a bunch of staged upgrades covered under the factory warranty

Stage 1 will give you over 240WHP and 260WTQ for only $350
Stage 2 will be something like 260WHP 280WTQ with a switch for high octane maps and should put down over 280WHP
Stage 3 will be over 300WHP and 300WTQ but it might void the warranty

Of course you can do your own mods and for about $1500(boost controller, wastegate actuator, slicks) you can pull close to mid 12's...it’s documented on video

Anyway if you would like I can PM you more info

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My car is possible to have a low 15 sec 1/4, I believe I was right around there. But guessing by the speed i was at (70) we ran about an 1/8 mile. Its possible that he couldnt make up the difference in the time frame, what we have a 1.2 second difference. Its all possible. Hell even if i had the shitty start like he did i wouldnt have been able to catch up in the distance we did.

Are you sure about that...I thought low 15's was RSX territory
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Re: Re: Re: I pwned an SRT-4

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Are you sure about that...I thought low 15's was RSX territory
I think he needs to read this article: http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/ro...scc_tcavalier/

- "And at the track, the car ran a respectable 0-to-60 mph time of 7.5 seconds and a 15.4-second quarter mile at 91.3 mph."

That's a TURBOCHARGED 2003 Ecotec Cavalier that ran that time. My best time in my Classic SE-R is 15.00. Hmmm...

- "The last stock Ecotec Cavalier we tested ran to 60 mph in 8.3 seconds and loafed down the strip in 16 seconds flat at 85.6 mph."

I doubt if even the best of drivers can cut almost a whole second off that time...

The SRT-4 is NOT 1 to 1.3 seconds faster you. It's more like 2 to 2.3 seconds faster, although you HAVE raced a car that is around .5 to a second faster than your car (mine), and we all know what happened there...http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...ght=carrrnuttt
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Re: Re: Re: Re: I pwned an SRT-4

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I think he needs to read this article: http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/ro...scc_tcavalier/

- "And at the track, the car ran a respectable 0-to-60 mph time of 7.5 seconds and a 15.4-second quarter mile at 91.3 mph."

That's a TURBOCHARGED 2003 Ecotec Cavalier that ran that time. My best time in my Classic SE-R is 15.00. Hmmm...

- "The last stock Ecotec Cavalier we tested ran to 60 mph in 8.3 seconds and loafed down the strip in 16 seconds flat at 85.6 mph."

I doubt if even the best of drivers can cut almost a whole second off that time...

The SRT-4 is NOT 1 to 1.3 seconds faster you. It's more like 2 to 2.3 seconds faster, although you HAVE raced a car that is around .5 to a second faster than your car (mine), and we all know what happened there...http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...ght=carrrnuttt

yeah i have that article too...i though that turbo cav was kind of sad with those perf numbers.....but anyway low 16's for a stock cav sounds more like it

low 15's is for 3.5 maximas or gtps...but those have 260 hp and 280hp even though they are a bit heavy
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i just read that sport compact article about the cavalier. dont forget you guys, that the stock cavalier had stock brakes, stock wheels, stock springs, stock everything when it was tested. the modified car got heavier parts all together, i mean look at the size of the wheels they have on that thing, they re 19 inch wheels, lots of rotational mass, and its got big 13 inch brakes, which are all enough to slow it down to like .5 sec. id say with smaller, lighter wheels, and some lighter parts, it could do high 14s with that kinda power to weight ratio, or look at it as how much more improvement in speed it would have gotten if everything was kept stock, except for the engine.
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i just read that sport compact article about the cavalier. dont forget you guys, that the stock cavalier had stock brakes, stock wheels, stock springs, stock everything when it was tested, so less weight than the modified one in the article. i mean look at the size of the wheels they have on that thing, they re 19 inch wheels, lots of rotational mass, and its got big 13 inch brakes, which are all enough to slow it down to like .5 sec. id say with smaller, lighter wheels, and some lighter parts, it could do high 14s with that kinda power to weight ratio, or look at it as how much more improvement in speed it would have gotten if everything was kept stock, except for the engine.
well that is beside the point...were talking about stock cavaliers...the turbo was mentioned as a side thing...


although upgraded brakes are a must when you up the power on a car
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well that is beside the point...were talking about stock cavaliers...the turbo was mentioned as a side thing...


although upgraded brakes are a must when you up the power on a car
yea...but you guys were also saying that its improvement were rather low, without mentioning why, its only running 8 psi, with heavier parts, so i felt like adding to it. its power to weight ratio is good enough for it be quicker than what they got, but i do agree that you should upgrade the brakes, im just saying that it adds to slowing the vehicle down from its original set up. im sure you knew about this, i just wanted to remind some of you guys.
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