Why did Mitsubishi discontinue the 3000GT

[YogsVR4]

Originally posted by Blackbird01
LMAO...
Oh man, I guess I'm one of those "fools that just likes to spin their tires"...
Afterall, I bought one of those cars that don't "look as good"...
Want to know why they discontinued 'em?
They sold next to none the last few years that it was in production. And the statement about the fact that people could buy cheaper, faster cars is VERY true. Mitsubishi even admitted it! Camaros, Mustangs and Firebirds were blowing the VR-4's doors off and paying less money as well! Sure, some of you may think that the 3KGT looks better, but thats personal preference. In my opinion, NOTHING beats the aggressive styling of my car. Big nostril-like hood scoops, AMAZING acceleration and GOOD cornering all combined to make one of the best american "pony cars" ever made....

Sure the 3kGT is a great looking and performing car, but for the money, it just wasn't enough...Same happened to the Supra and 300ZX. RX-7 died out because the Rotary just couldn't stay within US Emissions regulations.

Yup - the Cameros, Mustangs an TA are a much cheaper car and they feel like it. Its funny how a car that has virtually the same numbers in the quarter qualifies as "blowing the doors off" of any other vehicle. So, yeah I certainly think its a much better car. Its also true that I want to stand out in a crowd and a run of the mill see a million a day f-body, mustang and for that matter, corvette just doesnt cut it.

[Blackbird01]

VR-4 is a what? High 13 sec. car? Stock...
After putting 1300 miles on my car, I went to Great Lakes Dragaway in my AUTOMATIC Trans Am WS6 and pulled off a 12.907@108 with a 2.0 60'...
That's almost a full sec. difference...And at that speed, .1 is roughly 1 car length... Just an FYI for ya.

[VeilsideVR4]

VR4 is a low 13 second car stock, I ran a 12.9 @ 106 in my VR4 coupe on stock boost with no engine mods. I have gone to the Dragstrip 3 times and havent been defeated yet. TA is a fast car, but it is not faster than a VR4.

[Blackbird01]

Well that's news to me.
I'm a member of a LS1 Board as well as a few LS1 Clubs and have YET to hear of a LS1 powered F-Body being beaten by a stock VR-4.

I've had the chance to race 2 of them.
One from a stop. At first, I thought I was done for, but after 2nd gear I reeled him in and slowly passed him up to 120mph (I was stock, I assume he was as well) and the second was a highway run.
Highway race was an easy win. AWD and high speeds suck.

Anyways, I don't really have to worry about the majority of VR-4's out there...Supra's are another problem though

[YogsVR4]

Originally posted by Blackbird01
Well that's news to me.
I'm a member of a LS1 Board as well as a few LS1 Clubs and have YET to hear of a LS1 powered F-Body being beaten by a stock VR-4.

I've had the chance to race 2 of them.
One from a stop. At first, I thought I was done for, but after 2nd gear I reeled him in and slowly passed him up to 120mph (I was stock, I assume he was as well) and the second was a highway run.
Highway race was an easy win. AWD and high speeds suck.

Anyways, I don't really have to worry about the majority of VR-4's out there...Supra's are another problem though

If you haven't heard of one losing, then you aren't paying attention. On LS1.com I've read several and posted a few wins and loses against LS1s and my 94 is stock other then the intake which is diddly. Granted at highway speeds, the AWD will take a heavy toll. However, four weeks ago we had a stock 96 Stealth RT/TT (same everything but body molding as a VR4) run a 13.01 in the quarter completely stock. Thats better then I've ever done but it shows the car is capable to run with any ls1 including the corvette in a shorter street race. Highway speeds, the ls1 is going to walk and then run away.

For me it comes back to styling, fit & finish and exclusiveness. For that I couldn't miss with the VR4. As for Supras. They're fast, but they are ugly buggers.

[Blackbird01]

No way. I think Supra's look AMAZING!
I'm not too into the 3KGT's styling much...
And the price tag was a bit much.
I bought my car AND did all the mods for probably less the the cost of a new VR-4

Just personal preference I guess...

[LanCeRzEvO]

well since the rx7, 300zx, supra and 3000gt is gone..maybe the issue was the price.. all 4 of them was at least 40k but

in 2003!
Mazda RX-8
Nissan 350Z
Mitsubishi Lancer EVO VII
is all going to be here with a price under $30k! will kill the mustangs and the domestics hehe

and maybe the supra aka 4000gt comes back

[Blackbird01]

By the time the good imports show up, the F-Body will be gone.
Corvette will stay along with the Stang.
I know the Vette is going to have a bit over 400hp stock.
I assume Ford will follow with the 2004 Cobra as well.

[Pikachoo]

I love this Rivalry... It's great!!!

I personally love both the TA(ram air) and the VR4. Both are high performance sports cars that can beat most everything out there, although they are two totally different breeds.
Not to disrespect any 3000gt owner out there, because I love them, but after I graduate I plan on getting a TA. I mean come on, with a limited budget the TA is the way to go. The 350 has been around forever and has TONS of mods out there for half the price of the 3000gt mods. I personally can't wait to get one and start racing you VR4's out there.(the cars come pretty close)

Hey Blackbird01 have you seen the Incon twin turbo kit for the TA's :flash: ~$7,500 puts you in the 550 rwh range, and that's at 9 psi boost. A few more mods- 12-15 psi. Man i can't wait!!!

[ZYAL8ER]

Offcourse Rustangs and Craperos and ShitBirds out sold The Brothaz (Supra ,300Z , RX7,VR-4) the were way cheaper all the way around. its a totally different market You cant compare a comon everyday camaro with a Brotha,ask anybody in there right mind wich they would pick if they could have either one for free (HELLO!!!).sales cost ,Parts cost,insurance cost ext. were way different. not everbody had the bucks for a pure bread Sports Car.But you say Shitcars sold more cuase people werent idiots well the Brothaz sells were right with the Vettes were they shoulda been ,so then you must think the vettes are crap to right.lets see even to the most basic category the head turner category what some one do if the see a Rustang drive by ....NOTHING cuase there as Comon as Tooth Paste !!! but would be a reaction to seeing a Sweet 3000 GT VR-4 Drive by DAMNNN!!!

[clos1428]

-Vr-4 in my opinion are worth the price. I havent seen any camaro or mustang handle near as well as the VR-4. Camaros and mustangs and trans-ams will hold there own agianst a VR-4 on a straight away, but its on the track where it counts. There is no Domestic V-8 thats gonna keep with a japanese super car on the turns...just wont happen...besides Camaros and mustangs are a dime-a-dozen around here, and Mustangs have turned into chik cars where I live, every mustang on the road is being driven by a girl.(SF Bay area) So the 3000gt is more original...nicer to look at and will probably beat most camaros and mustang on any course with or without the turns!!!

[SphinX]

2 issues.... Handling.... and beating/comparing to a Vette. First off, the handling issue, this is off the top of my head, so the numbers mights be slightly off, but not by much. The VR4 on the skid pad could only pull a .90g, compared to the Camaro SS/TA Ram Air, they pulled a .97. THe corvette z06 can pull just over 1g before loosing control of the vehicle. Who has better handling? The same thing goes for the newer little import sport cars, like the Evolution and WRX Sti, they could only pull around a .85g on the skid pad, thats pretty sad. Second off, a Vr4 beating a Vette, don't make me laugh. Sure the Vr4 has 320hp with Twin Turbos, and has a curb weight of 3760lbs, where the basic C5 vette has 345hp and a curb weight of 3100lbs. SO lets think here, can something that has 20hp less and weighs 660lbs more beat a C5 vette? The answer is no. I have drivin VR4's and they aren't comparable to Vettes. THe Vette will win hands down everytime. The twin turbo on the VR4 doesn't kick in til higher RPM's, meaning no power while the Vette and its traction control are already way ahead. And thats a basic C5, do you want to talk about a C5 Zo6? Its only has 405hp, 0-60 in 4 seconds, and can pull over 1g on the skid pad.... Its costs around 50K new. The reason the vette can pull such good handling and control is because of the design of the drivetrain. THe small block v8 is infront of the car and the transmission ( whether automatic or manual ) is placed in the rear giving it unheard of weight balance. This goes for the basic model C5 and the Z06.

[youngvr4]

hey for all my vr4 owners on here, i'm liveing proof of thr vr4 compared to the vette. just so happens that my dad owns a c5 1998 vette and i own a 1992 vr4. have you guys ever heard of the idaho pass? well we where coming back from arkansas and we were coming through the idaho pass, it is very very curvy and it leaves lots of people scared to go faster than 45mph. well me and my dad were doing more like 90-100mph we seen it as a road coarse. only mod i had was exhaust. and remember i have the 1st gen only 300hp compared to his 345hp
well to make a long story short i ate my dads vette for breakfast through that pass. he even admits that the vr4 handling out does his vettes. i drove my dads vette for a year and a half because he had his liscence suspended for doing 160mph on the freeway. and tipsy. so i know what the vette does and i know what the vr4 does, the skidpad is only a decimal, a fraction a very little part in handling.unless you slamming on your brakes that info is almost useless. i know for a fact that the vr4's handling is better. my dad is a very good driver also he use to race cars back in the day wich is why i'm so into cars. oh and by the way
1997 Chevrolet Corvette 4.7 13.3
1998 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible 5.1 13.5
1999 Chevrolet Corvette Hardtop 4.8 13.3

1995 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.4 13.5
1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 4.8 13.5

1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.7 14.1
1996 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.3 13.8
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 5.2 13.7
1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.2 13.6

hmm looks like alot of this is a drivers race. were not as far behind as you think my friend

[helldamnfart]

Right... the way i see it is, NEW camaros, TA's, Stangs, all look rather crap. Ive only seen a few of them that i would say, "Damn!! I wish i had one of those!" But almost every 3000GT ive seen I say, "damn that is a nice car" wether it has the VR4 badge or not, makes no difference to me.

They are just slick as all hell. No car made in the 90's looks as good with the exception of some $100k+ cars that dont even count.

Now, if this were the 60's and someone brought back a 3000gt and said "this car is from the future, and ill trade it to you for your brand new '69 Camaro SS," I'd say "Go fuck yourself!"

Sorry, but i am a firm beliver that nothing will ever again compare with the elegance and power of the "classic" American muscle/pony car.

But this is not '69, and the "cars" (mostly SUV's now on the streets) are crap looking, crap. Aside from the Vetts' (which i still think look pretty good, though nothing compared to a 67 Stingray) the 3000GT is the only car I would trade in my '82 Z28 Indy 500 edition for. And that says a lot for the GT, I love my camaro, but its time to move on!

So its too bad that you cant buy a new GT anymore in the US. But there are a few used ones in good condition floating around, that im gonna get my hands on.

[YogsVR4]

Guys - this thread died 20 months ago. Let it go.