We Got Him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[taranaki]

Originally Posted by Pick

Who cares about that? We deserves to die, plain and simple. I say we take him out back of the Iraqi court and execute him. Torture him first.

Yup,that would be the way that a complete imbecile would do it.ALL of the people of Iraq need to be convinced that his reign is over,that he is a beaten man,and that the world will capture and serve justice on anyone else who tries to take his place.Ultimately,I don't care if he gets executed,but only a complete fuckwit would turn him into a martyr by following Pick's ill-considered suggestions.

[banditkiller]

We sure did, my dad actually woke me up to tell me this morning. I agree with cbass though, what does the Bush administration do now that we have captured him? Will the attacks continue? Almost indeffinately, but for how long will we have to fight these so called fanaticals? I think we should start pulling our troops out. We have accomplished what we set out to do . Bring down Saddam's regime.

[texan]

Originally Posted by Ludelover

Do u even know what the Kurds have done in Turkey? try terrorism for many, many years. So yeah, they deserve to be persecuted, and they rebelled in Turkey because they wanted there own land....sorry, majority rules. I know many people who came close to death due to car bombs, mall bombs, whatever, that Kurds set in areas such as Istanbul, Ankara, so as the 'hunters' of terrorists in the world (US), try to keep the hypocracy to a minimum, thank you.

So you'd be talking about the PKK and other leftist Kurdish groups then? And that, to you, warrants the gasing of 5000 Kurds in Halabja in 1988? This is what the Kurds deserve then...



There are few innocents in this world, at least as far as organizations and governments are concerned. But if you even presume to excuse the killing of thousands through chemical weapon attacks on townsfolk who just happen to be Kurdish by Saddam, may God help you. The guy is a horrific mass murderer who's brought terror and death to the Middle East, as many others have done too, and he should never have excuses made on his behlaf.

[DGB454]

Originally Posted by Ludelover

Do u even know what the Kurds have done in Turkey? try terrorism for many, many years. So yeah, they deserve to be persecuted, and they rebelled in Turkey because they wanted there own land....sorry, majority rules. I know many people who came close to death due to car bombs, mall bombs, whatever, that Kurds set in areas such as Istanbul, Ankara, so as the 'hunters' of terrorists in the world (US), try to keep the hypocracy to a minimum, thank you.

So using this logic I'm guessing that you believe every Palestinian deserves to be persecuted also? Why not muslims as a whole? They are the ones committing most of these terrorist acts.

You don't punish the group for what a few radicals have done.

[goat_launcher]

Killing Saddam Insane would be stupid and barbaric.

I'd give him a sex change, put him in a dress and on that corner and make him earn his keep

[texan]

Dude the theatre gassing was in Oct. of '02, and involved Chechan Muslim rebels.

[CeeJay]

Originally Posted by bobby28384

I think Saddam derserves to die.

No human being deserves to die, and no human being has the right to decide that someone should die.

But he does need a trial.

Why ?. Everyone has decided his fate anyway.

Probably by the Iraqis....they were affected most....and need to not have as much US interference.

The Americans need to stay well out of any trial of this man - I'm sickened by their "celebrations" over finding Saddam, and American involvement in any trial will only turn the whole thing into a circus to boost their already overinflated egos.

[Pick]

Originally Posted by taranaki

Yup,that would be the way that a complete imbecile would do it.ALL of the people of Iraq need to be convinced that his reign is over,that he is a beaten man,and that the world will capture and serve justice on anyone else who tries to take his place.Ultimately,I don't care if he gets executed,but only a complete fuckwit would turn him into a martyr by following Pick's ill-considered suggestions.

Give him a trial......there's no way he can win. It is ineveitable that he's going to die. But taking him to any court other than an Iraqi one is just delaying the ineveitable. He will get a trial.....and it needs to be quick and the execution needs to be done.

[2strokebloke]

Originally Posted by Pick

Who cares about that? We deserves to die, plain and simple. I say we take him out back of the Iraqi court and execute him. Torture him first.

I thought you said you had morals? Torture? - I think I smell an upcoming dictator...

But seriously, I'd be totally and wholly surprised if he didn't get executed. Or they could always exhile him to the moon.

[Ludelover]

Originally Posted by texan

So you'd be talking about the PKK and other leftist Kurdish groups then? And that, to you, warrants the gasing of 5000 Kurds in Halabja in 1988? This is what the Kurds deserve then...



There are few innocents in this world, at least as far as organizations and governments are concerned. But if you even presume to excuse the killing of thousands through chemical weapon attacks on townsfolk who just happen to be Kurdish by Saddam, may God help you. The guy is a horrific mass murderer who's brought terror and death to the Middle East, as many others have done too, and he should never have excuses made on his behlaf.

If you show me the difference between the turkish government searching out terrorist groups (Kurds) doing terrorist acts in the country of Turkey and persecuting them, and the US flying halfway across the world and invading another country that 'supposedly' harbours terrorists and WMD, PLEASE DO!(I am not talking about kurds and saddam in iraq, i am talking about kurds in Turkey. I made my original statement because you were drawing a similarity between the two, when they are 2 different situations).
And as a matter of fact, palestinian's are 'accidentily' killed in Isreal all the time. What is your point?
And please, if you are going to post pics to show kurdish death, post some of some innocent turks who die by kurdish hand...oh sorry, you can't because the kurdish bombs usually dismember them beyond identification.

Do you all think terrorism began on Sept 11? It has been happening or many, many years, but for some reason when a foreign country tries to defend themselves as the USA has done in post 9/11, they are labelled mass murders. Sorry friend, Turkey deserves to defend themselves against terrorism just as much as the US.
I guess Turkey could just capture alleged terrosists, jail them indefinetly without legal council, no questions asked. Hmmm...that sounds fair, huh?

[Cbass]

Originally Posted by DGB454

So using this logic I'm guessing that you believe every Palestinian deserves to be persecuted also?
You don't punish the group for what a few radicals have done.

In case you haven't notice, Israel IS persecuting every Palestinian, have you heard about the whole West bank wall fiasco?

http://www.islamonline.net/English/N...rticle02.shtml

[DGB454]

Originally Posted by Cbass

In case you haven't notice, Israel IS persecuting every Palestinian, have you heard about the whole West bank wall fiasco?

http://www.islamonline.net/English/N...rticle02.shtml

In case you haven't noticed I wasn't defending Israel.(I'll save that for another time) I was making the point that you can't persecute a group as a whole because of a few fanatics.

[Cbass]

Originally Posted by DGB454

In case you haven't noticed I wasn't defending Israel.(I'll save that for another time) I was making the point that you can't persecute a group as a whole because of a few fanatics.

Ah, but you imply you WILL defend Israel, even though they are guilty of the same crimes you accuse Hussein of?

Care to know what the current list of UN condemnation and actions against the state of Israel stands at?

Oh, and something that occurred to me... How many stunt doubles did Hussein have?

[Cbass]

Emphasis on evidence and hundreds of thousands

As for the sanctions, were they imposed by Saddam Hussein? No, they were strongarmed through the UN by the US, who then made them impossible to lift... The burden of proof was on Saddam to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the weapons did not exist. If you read the reports from Butler's inspectors, Iraq disposed of vast quantities of weapons under their watchful eyes. Of course, it's very easy to make baseless claims about weapons of mass destruction and use them to further your agenda, Bush has proved that very well. Butler pulled the inspectors out voluntarily, despite claims of the US propaganda machine that they were ejected, then went before congress beating war drums. That man wanted a war, fortunately for everyone involved, Clinton didn't, and neither did Congress... Somehow, they thought it would be a massive waste of money and human life... Meanwhile, the US kept bombing the shite out of Iraq...

Originally Posted by texan

Then perhaps you've been ignoring Iraqi affairs for the last 25 years. His rise to power that included the televised rounding up and disappearance of over 50 people at the top rung of the government. The multiple Kurdish massacres, at least one of which included chemical weaponry. Ever heard about the Iran-Iraq War? Or how about that little mess called Desert Shield and the ensuing Desert Storm? How many people died then?

Let's see, oh we've also got the Shiite massacre in southern Iraq just after the Gulf War ended. We've got 12 years of sanctions that helped further starve and bring Iraqis throughout the country to their knees. We've got thousands upon thousands of documents and papers found NOT on the bodies of Iraqis (it was a huge crime to not have your papers on you at all times, unless of course you were dead). We've got many mass graves which locals confirm hold Iraqi prisoners, we've got thousands of personal stories about his brutality and indifference to murder. I could probably go on for another paragraph just off the top of my head, but this should bring home the point. When every human rights watchdog group in the world thinks the guy is the devil himself, perhaps it's not just "this side of the pond" that's seeing the truth.

[CeeJay]

Originally Posted by Cbass

The burden of proof was on Saddam to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the weapons did not exist.

Good old WMD's - they're the boys that began the war, with the American government stating they knew Saddam had WMD's and the British government blindly agreeing with that puppet Bush. So, they went to war, because Saddam had WMD's and they knew this. Strange then how no WMD's have been found. Bush and Blair - the LIARS !.