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Old 12-13-2003, 05:13 PM
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Re: Re: Completed: 350Z streetDRAGON

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But It seems like your quite happy with it and in the end thats all that matters.
but i'm never 100% happy with model, that's why I keep building to get better and hopefully one day, please myself more.
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Old 12-13-2003, 06:02 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Completed: 350Z streetDRAGON

Well, here's my verdict:

Second Kit Built: 9/10
Paint 6/10
Decals & desgin: 10/10
Use of Body kit: 4/10, should've made the rest fit, but that's my
Wing: It could look better with the rest of the body kit, so...5.8/10
Interior: 12/10, very nicely done
Ride height & rims: 8/10
*NOTE: red flames around red headlamps get a 10/10, cause that's so damn cool
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Overall appearance(interior and exterior combined): 8.5/10.

Honestly it looks amazing, but it could've used some work, I've taken into consideration that you ran short on time, and that you ran short on paint and supplies, that's why you get 8/10. By far spectacular work, I could show some pics of my second model(unpained, molded in black 55chevy street machine, did some work on it over 2 years ago) BTW, the black mirros add to the coolness of the car, maybe if you'd clear-coated over the decals, they'd be less fragile. Seeing as how nice this came out, for a second car, it's a shame that you're leaving the hobby, who knows, if you build a stock 350z, without all the glam, but put a lil detail and pour some heart into it(without going nuts) it could be very nice stock.
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Old 12-13-2003, 06:16 PM
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Very nice, it's not the best 350Z but It's still a great achievement. Very American styled, if you know what I mean. Try building one stock first next time, so you can get a feel for it. Come back soon!
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Old 12-13-2003, 07:00 PM
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I'm very much in the middle on this one. I gave you a 5. Not because its bad, but because its not good, either. You mentioned somewhere, in this thread or the other, that you didn't bother with the details. To me, and to most I would assume, the details are the important part. Personally, I would have been much more impressed with a cleanly built totally stock 350Z, but I know that's not what you're after. Things like the mold lines in the rear bumper, the (sorry) awful puttywork along the hood and front bumper (no separation lines, is the hood welded shut like in that old Toyota advert?), the orange peel paint, the ill fitting headlamps and the visible brush strokes on the interior just ruin a model for me.

I know that can be mostly chalked up to experience. But you've also talked a lot about putting in extra effort to make this the best model ever. It really disappoints me that so much advice and help was offered during the construction, and the response was without fail "this is my last model." That sounds like an excuse to me, and I didn't see any extra effort go into this model beyond the graphics, body kit, spoiler and fancy paint color. It seems like you were so caught up in the wow that you didn't worry about the mundane things that make a good kit great. I know that most of that work is hard, and doesn't impress, and isn't flashy or particularly awesome, but the lack really kills a model and any flashy and particularly awesome bits it does have. I just hope you have a little more attention to detail in your design work than you do your model.

And as far as the design, I usually don't say anything regarding it because it's a personal thing, but you've flaunted it so much it warrants conversation. Red and yellow don't mix. At all. You'd think a design student would know that? The wheels look toy like, in size and shine. They probably would have looked much better, both stylistically and technically if you killed ths shine in the center and left the lip bright chrome. The graphics are way over the top, and don't really work together. The red flames clash with the gold dragon on the roof, and the black sponsor decals (which are ill placed, too far from the bottom edge, extend past the top of the wheel arch, and straddle the panel line) just don't fit in at all, nor do the white decals on the windows. You'd think you'd at least coordinate the two, and if the black doesn't show up on the window, perhaps a body color banner painted on the windows could help set them off. The spoiler, which isn't my style because it's so big, is also way out of scale and chunky. It looks like it came off a 1:18. The spoiler from the AMT Supra should never be used on anything ever except as a joke. You spent so much money on the car, you think you could have sprung for a SAS GT wing, I mean, you ordered from them already. My roommate said the car looks like a girl, and after looking at it again, I agree. The flames coming off the headlamps look like eyelashes, and really none of the flames are in the same style. And I'd've expected decals to not look like they were hand painted right on the body. It boils down to the fact that there is absolutely no cohesion between any of the modifications done to this car. Probably any one of them, alone, would look just fine. But together, the car is a miss-match in every aspect.

Damn, I meant this to be civil but I guess it ended otherwise. Really, if it had been anyone else's car, I wouldn't have said anything. But your sheer arrogance throughout the build, and even though everyone tried to help you get on the right track.... You just ignored any help. That is really frustrating. Just because you somehow are convinced you and your cars are better than any here.

If you feel you've been wronged by this post, I'm sorry. If you are mad, sorry. Feel free to search for any projects I have built (you can click on my name and it will take you to a profile where you can click on "find all threads started by this user") and pick them apart if you feel like it, I'd be interested to hear your opinions.

I must admit, though, your threads have certainly become the most entertaining.
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Old 12-13-2003, 07:21 PM
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Re: Completed: 350Z streetDRAGON

It's a killer second model and if you are forced out of the hobby by being scared of your negative parents, then it's a great model to go out on!
Really, try to explain to your parents that even though it costs you alot of money you thoroughly enjoy it, if they see how much it makes you happy then they shouldn't stay so negative about you doing it.
Good luck man and again, it's a great model to go out on, especially for your second.
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Old 12-13-2003, 07:39 PM
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Re: Completed: 350Z streetDRAGON

considering the fact that you talked yourself up to ridiculous levels, ignored advice and from day one said this is the best 350Z ever built, you really let yourself down. I gotta agree with the decals with willimo. Gold on a yellow car? I dunno, but I think the whole bodykit would have looked killer on a white car or something like that. The paint also looks much better in other pics (did you use some red light or something in previous pics?) than it does in here. Also, considering that you have orange peel (and i know how annoying it can be), and did say this was gonna be the best 350Z, you really slacked off. A different base colour and reflection would have made this the best 350Z I reckon. Either way, for a second model its killer and i can only hope mine will look as good as yours.
It's a shame that you are already leaving the hobby, because you have talent. If you could now only open your heart to other people's opinions and advice, then maybe this would be more rewarding for you.

Okay im out before I make an ass of myself :P
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Old 12-13-2003, 08:17 PM
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The end result isn't what I expected, after you were saying it was going to be the best 350z I have ever seen.

I must say, I would of prefered the end result if you hadn't of built it up so much saying that it was going to be the best 350z we have ever seen.

Ohh, and do you actually have a Nitrous oxide kit on it? or is the sticker just for show?
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Old 12-13-2003, 08:27 PM
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"All of you who lectured me on my ego and tried to make fun of me - thx, I've put in extra effort to prove you wrong."
I meant not to make fun of you at all however your ego was kind of running the show. I like what you've donw with the model overall, especially it being only your second model. It's a shame that you're leaving the hobby due to the talent and heaps of potential you show. Hopefully your parents will reconsider their thoughts on your building and change their minds. Take care and drop in whenever you get the chance. Peace .
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Old 12-13-2003, 08:59 PM
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with all due respect FORGET YOUR PARENTS! If you let them control you on this little thing? what next are you going to live with them till your 45? They might aswell continue to change your diapers! If them not liking it stops you from doning something that isnt wrond then you have serious problems!!
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To tell you the truth If I saw that 350Z in real life Id puke. Not only does the A1 racing wing put digrace to the beautiful car that the 350z is, the decals and the paint scheme make the car look like a fruit of some sort.

However, this being your second model, I respect your efforts and I can definetley say this model is crazyyy nice for your 2nd. Maybe you shoudl consider continue model building when u have the chance, you might have something goign here. I can only imagine what your 20th model would look like.

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Old 12-14-2003, 12:25 AM
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Nice!
I like the dragon decal at roof of it.

But the spoiler seems a little too big for it.
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Re: Completed: 350Z streetDRAGON

i think it looks great way better than my 2nd model the flames were done very well, paint looks great, it's definatly diffrent than other 350z's on here wich i think is great your not trying to make your models like others and building how you want to!!!
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im am very upset that all these nice modelers gave you there advice to help you produce a decent model. if you are in collage dosent that mean your 18+ that means your an adult, you can make up your own mind about what you want to do with your spare time, i am not saying to ingnor your parents but please dont let them rule your life. if building models is something you really want to do than do it and don't take shit from your parents or anyone for that matter, i mean what whould you do if you met a woman and you really liked her and your mom and dad said that they did not like you spending your spare time or money on her, what whould you do kick her ass to the side of the road so you can run back to mommy and kiss her toes. you know what you need to get a life, for gods sake i'm 17 and live with my mom and she whould never think of holding be back from what i want to do.

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Old 12-14-2003, 01:22 AM
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I'm going to go ahead and apologize for being an ass before. I can get like that sometimes. Even though I don't personally care for it (it's mostly taste, mind you) I think if you learn from others and develop the skills you already have (I mean seriously, that is a really good second effort) and build very good models. Forget your parents, mine never approved of my models. Do what you like, and don't lose heart because of a few vocal naysayers like myself. If you let your build speak for itself, its voice of quality will be much louder. Just a thought.
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Woah...came out better than i thought it would after u messed up the paint job. Everything is tight but IMO the red and yellow doesnt match quite well. But that's only my opinion. Plus, get rid of the damned APC decal. As long as u like ur work, its a 10/10.
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