Known Problems (Consistent only please)

[CGGorman]

If the price is right, the Getrag is an excellent choice. Both the tranny and engine are very nearly bullet-proof. The manual avoids most of the problems associated with the other cars and provides a level of performance nearly equal to the V8.

Go for it!

[jerryls]

Originally Posted by Nand12

Yes i definetely think that giveortake is spamming. $400 labor to replace a $13 dollar thermostat is impossible. All you have to do is remove the upper radiator hose where it meets with the engine cooling lines, and you will find the thermostat located there.

On the 2000 LS V8 the thermostat is under the engine, $400 from deaker is the price, I had to pay also
JB

[el es]

It is a good buy for the buck if you haggle them down as close to trade in value as you can. I have had some serious problems with but I love it. In closing the only consistent trend with cars is that the will always be inconsistent.

Shop hard and then travel well.

[nalore1713]

I love my car. I bought it with 65k on it and now has 70k. Is a sweet ride. However, My problems are as follow:

-Breaks:
I do hear some squiky noise on front right tire when going in reverse and aplying the brakes. Mechanic said I need new brakes. What I wonder is, Why squiks only when going in reverse?

-My major porblem, I think almost everyone in this forum already knows, is my SRS.
-SRS:
My Airbag linght Has never been ON/comes On at all. I Went to dealer and paid $25 for the connector.
I took the seat out and inspected every single conenctor under it. Unpluged all connectors and plugged them back in. Every single one of them.
Spliced the cable and connected it. Put the seat back in place and my problem Still remains unresolved. I don't know if I need to reset something or what?

There are 5 sets of 5 beeps each with about 4 seconds between set. It comes up everytime I start the car and sometimes it comes up while driving and goes through the cycle all over again.

There is no message on the Message Center and no lights comes ON, on the cluster.

-Beeps Oce:
While driving, I do somethimes hear one beet. Just like the one you hear when you are low on Gas. No light comes ON on the cluster and no message is displayed on the message center.

-Cruise Control:
I don't think they work properly. I turn it ON and to set it I have to press the -sign. To Accelerate, again the -. To slow down I have to press the + sign.

-Remote Controls on Steering:
Some times it works fine and some other, it just drives me nuts. When there is a good song playing, I want to turn it up.. The damn control either changes to Tape, station, skips to the next song or starts the song from the beginning.
Also, when trying to turn volume Down, instead, it turns it up. let me tell you, this is very agrevating. But i still love my car.

-Heated Seats:
Only Passenger side works. Drivers side does nothing.

-Noisy:
When driving on the Hiway, I'm constatly cheking windows to make sure they are all up. Is not as quite as my Diamante LS.

-Transmision Jerks:
I have noticed that it sometimes jerks when upshifting. You can feel it kicking in gear. There has also been some hesitation when shifting in revere. I'll have to pay more attention to this jerking and keep you guys Updated.

I guess that's all. Like I said, in spite of all these problems, I still love this ride. No engine porbles so far and I hope it stays that way. I know one day i get my share. I just hope I don't get it anytime soon.

Yoni A.

[ELLJAY]

Sometimes I go ino the driveway at dusk and look at my LS (My wife does the same). I look at this beast crouched in the driveway waiting to be let loose.

I know that when I get in and buckle myself up, that I will have an experience, whether I'm going to the "Fruit and Vegatable" store or getting in a cruise of 400-500 miles.

These cars are as addictive as the Chargers/Daytonas/Barracudas of my youth, except that they are more refined, more comfortable, and when your co-workers ask you what you're driving and you answer "A Lincoln LS," they look at you with a kind of awe. If you say that you bought a V6 with a 5-speed, they look at you with total respect.

Don't get a V8 with an automatic transmission. Get a V6 with a 5-spd. Feel the corners under your tie-rod ends. You're totally conected with he road. You will be, I guarantee - totally connected to this car.

Another LS freak from Canada.

[jerryls]

Originally Posted by ELLJAY

Sometimes I go ino the driveway at dusk and look at my LS (My wife does the same). I look at this beast crouched in the driveway waiting to be let loose.

I know that when I get in and buckle myself up, that I will have an experience, whether I'm going to the "Fruit and Vegatable" store or getting in a cruise of 400-500 miles.

These cars are as addictive as the Chargers/Daytonas/Barracudas of my youth, except that they are more refined, more comfortable, and when your co-workers ask you what you're driving and you answer "A Lincoln LS," they look at you with a kind of awe. If you say that you bought a V6 with a 5-speed, they look at you with total respect.

Don't get a V8 with an automatic transmission. Get a V6 with a 5-spd. Feel the corners under your tie-rod ends. You're totally conected with he road. You will be, I guarantee - totally connected to this car.

Another LS freak from Canada.

I agree it has a nice ride, and looks good, that's why I bought it in the first place. However, the quality control for the 2000 LS was non existent. My cruise control doesn't work, and the AC blows hot air out of the passenger side. So AC is totally useless. This is beside the 20 other problems that cost me thousands to fix.
** I would never in a hundred years, buy another Lincoln product. As far as JD Power associates-"Car of the year" for 2000-- I wouldnt pay much attention to their opinion any more either!

[Freeda]

Originally Posted by ELLJAY

Sometimes I go ino the driveway at dusk and look at my LS (My wife does the same). I look at this beast crouched in the driveway waiting to be let loose.

I know that when I get in and buckle myself up, that I will have an experience, whether I'm going to the "Fruit and Vegatable" store or getting in a cruise of 400-500 miles.

These cars are as addictive as the Chargers/Daytonas/Barracudas of my youth, except that they are more refined, more comfortable, and when your co-workers ask you what you're driving and you answer "A Lincoln LS," they look at you with a kind of awe. If you say that you bought a V6 with a 5-speed, they look at you with total respect.

Don't get a V8 with an automatic transmission. Get a V6 with a 5-spd. Feel the corners under your tie-rod ends. You're totally conected with he road. You will be, I guarantee - totally connected to this car.

Another LS freak from Canada.

Yeah, I used to feel the same way until recently. I own a 2000 LS,V8 and it has been riddled with issues.

Rear window issues
Rearview mirror leaked
replaced coils
trunk would not stay shut
sunroof replaced two times and it's starting to break again
tension bracket broke on the timing chain for no apparent reason
replaced timing chain, tension brackets
as a result of the above two rods got bent
got the car back a week ago and now the pistons are blown!
I'm told the enigine has to be totally rebuilt
To date, between warranty and my own money, I have spent $27,000 used for the car and have put in over $9000 into repairs.

I sitll love the car and the ride, but I think I'm going foreign from here on...I'm looking at the new audi!

What's the saying, Ford = Fix Often Repair Daily

[giveortake]

[quote=giveortake]I bought a 2000 LS V8 Sport with 64,000 miles.. I now have 79k miles. Since then I have had the following issues:

1. Total Climate Control Module Failure: $850
2. Heated Seats: Crazy. Burn my butt sometimes othert timers don't work at all. Never looked into having them fixed.
3. Crazy engine/trans issue. Both check engine and trans light would come on periodically while excellerating at which time the car was puking. Answer: Dealership said 7 of 8 "coils" bad. Wanted $700 to replace them all. Upon further conversations and computer record reviews, they determined 3 of the 8 coils were actually mis firing. Had those three replaced 2 weeks ago for $400. Seems to be O.K. now, but I am leary that it isn't as smooth as it used to be. Not sure if that is perception or reality. Dealership coil tester apparently reads either good or bad under stress testing. Apparently 7 of mine were reading bad. What a fricken joke. Give me a good ole distributer........
4. Rear Brake Caliper needed to be replaced due to malfunction that burned through pad and router. Thus total brake job for $350 including caliper.
5. Damn car locks the doors randomly. No rhyme or reason. This is not user error. This is a car electrical issue. Thus after being locked out of the car twice at gas stations, I no longer EVER leave the keys in the car.
6. Leaky valve gaskets. $400 to fix. Leaving it alone.
7. Leaky headlights. Leaving it alone.
8. Random beeps peridoically while driving God knows from what. Beeps once then nothing. No idea.
9. Blows cold while idling. Dealer now says "thermostat" and is happy to replace the $13 part for $400 of labor.

Probably several other items I have forgotten at the moment that irk me.

So lets see other than not having any type of climate control in the cabin, the fact that I don't trust the engine & transmission, and with half of the lousy "luxary" items non working I don't see any reason why anyone would buy this car ever........... Especially with a 40k plus price tag. Who are they kidding? But hey I could continue to spend $500 a month in repairs/maintenance to the local dealership or I can throw this thing away and put a turnequte on to stop the hemmorenging.

Plus side. Car is dang fast and has nice radio. Oops forgot to mention that when I use the up/down volume controls on the steering wheel it will often times randomly change the station to the next preset...

End result. I got hosed. This car is junk. I sure wish I had my 1997 sable with 130k miles back........


For those that have stated I am spamming, after several thousand more dollars spent at the dealership for additional items not listed, on 2/14/06 and 115,000 the transmission failed and the dealer wants another $4,100 to fix. That is on top of the $650 to pull it and they refuse to put it back together. Thus it is listed on Ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=4614119056

So those that doubt my sincerity can eat crow. Lincoln has produced a total piece of crap......... I didnt bother to mention the "hop" that couldnt be corrected or the fact that the car defrosting system totally failed. It blew hot, but must be leaking antifreeze or something somewhere but dealer could not identify thus they said it was operator error. I know how to hit the dag defrost button, but after two hours driving if I cant see out of 75% of my windows, it is not an operator error. The car is up for sale on Ebay for parts.. You be the judge............. Lincoln LS now being discontinued. SHOCK. DUH. This is indeed a total piece of garbage that on the surface is a great ride!

[giveortake]

Originally Posted by CGGorman

Spam from Giveortake?

The Lincoln LS is a nice looking disease. Addicting because of its nice styling and features, a death sentence to anyone that buys it from a maintenance perspective. You have questions about my authenticity, I have now listed my LS on Ebay for parts since the Transmission has failed and the dealer wants $4,100 to replace with a "used" one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=4614119056

Buyer beware. Frankly the best news I could hear is that Ford is shutting down the plant that makes the LS in the Detroit MI area (Wixom).

[giveortake]

Originally Posted by CGGorman

Spam from Giveortake?

The Lincoln LS is a nice looking disease. Addicting because of its nice styling and features, a death sentence to anyone that buys it from a maintenance perspective. You have questions about my authenticity, I have now listed my LS on Ebay for parts since the Transmission has failed and the dealer wants $4,100 to replace with a "used" one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=4614119056

Buyer beware. Frankly the best news I could hear is that Ford is shutting down the plant that makes the LS in the Detroit MI area (Wixom).

[jerryls]

I can understand your frustration! FYI, I had my transmission(2000LS) replaced by a new one(Ford) from the dealer for $2900.00. You can negotiate with them a bit. If not try another local dealer. My dealer also wanted $800 to replace both valve gaskets, another dealer did it for $500. the difference was the labor charge varies from dealer to dealer.

[ahampton]

There is a vacum hose that is shooting oil onto your coils. he will continue to replace the coils thinking the oil is coming for a leaky gasket but it's being dumped in through that hose. I know had exact same problem.

[gt01ls00]

First off, I am new here, so HELLO to all.

I bought my 2000 LS V8 about 8 months ago. I had to get out of my mustang gt to a family car for my husband and my first child. This was a fair trade off other than the gt was still more fun. But the LS is great. The previous owner had gone through and fixed a majority of the known problems on the car before I got it so the only problems that I have had to deal with is the valve cover leak issue and the climate control issue.

The deal with the valve covers is simple (in a sense). The reason the cars still might "jerk" around after you have the cover PROPERLY fixed is caused by the COP. The coils are known (ford and lincoln alike) to go bad when they get "messed with". Simply put. The initial leak problem fixed the initial problem, but it creates a new one. I have to replace two coils that went bad from the valve seal repair. It can be costly if you can't work on cars. The valve seal kit is $40 per side from the dealer and easy to replace. It took me about 3 hrs to do both of them. Now I am getting a miss-fire on the #4 and #7 coils. Those are a little more costly. I believe $100 each. But they will take even less time to replace.

These cars are known to have many problems. But the repairs are not to bad and actually fix the problem properly that they had engineered wrong originally. I believe they are worth every penny you pay. When they are repaired, they run like a dream and ride even better. I feel like I am in a larger version of my mustang (when it was stock) most of the time. I would not trade it for anything else.

[davidb183]

Has anyone had this problem with their 2000 lincoln LS V8? In the morning when I start the car and put it in and gear it will not engage the Transmission. It is just like I am still in park or neutral. Once I reve up the engine for what ever reason the transmission will finnaly engage. I must also say I have hade nothing but trouble out of this Transmission and also the engine. This car has been nothing but problems. Any help would be appriciated. My dealership has been no help.