2005 Camaro

[CamaroSSBoy346]

BTW The thunderbird is going out of production in fall of 04 i belive. So much for that, huh?

[98GPGT]

that thunderbird was ugly as hell. And they didn't bring the gto back because for ford

[Chevyracincamaro]

the camaro was made in response to the mustang yes...but who eventually out sold who in that little conflict

[boots03]

did the camaro most time win straight out of the box, i mean wont the times faster in everything?

[dcatkin]

Originally Posted by 95gts98gt

chevy always has to copy us...we invent the model T u make a peice of shit we make the stang u make the camaro,we make the f-100, u make the silverdo we make a retro thunderbird u make a GTO from austrlia
now we make a retro stang for 2005 and guess what chevy's right behind with a retro model

For one thing

The first muscle car was built by GM in the year 1963, your Mustang wasen't released untill 1964, and it was considered a pony car at the time, and as to Chevy following everyting you do, this is not true either. Chevy is not doing a retro anything, and this is why were all bitching about it, Chevy needs to come to the party and realize that it time to do a new Camaro. Oh and one more thing the GTO is not a retro car, and should not be called GTO, if that's what your yammering about.

[WS6HUMMER]

It's freakin sweet!!!

[boots03]

ok, i dont want to get technical, but the FIRST muscle car was built in 1955 i belive, its the the first of the Chrysler letter cars, it was a 1955 Chrysler A-300, it had 331+hp, it had a 331 red ram HEMI, and it terroized the nascar circut for 3 years until 1958, when they started to grow wings like every other car on the market.

[dcatkin]

Originally Posted by Jared_80

It looks like a cool concept but why do they want to keep a solid rear end??? If they really want this thing to catch on they NEED to beat the AWD turbo cars in the 1/4 mile. And make the 7L engine an option, they have been teasing us with that for too long.

I can think of a lot of things that thay should do, the question is will they go to may site and print the form and send it to them, and tell them what you would like to see you can get it at http://hp-car.com/camaro.pdf

[KRASH1]

Originally Posted by CamaroSSBoy346

Um. Actually GM made the first muscle car if you want to get all technical and shit. The GTO. But if you want to go even deeper, the 300 letter series car was the very first real muscle car.

Actually, the first "real muscle car" was the Shelby Cobra, However it should be noted that the first streetable muscle car was the Corvette. And the first affordable muscle car was the Mustang!

The GTO came out after the Mustang, and although a remarkable car, it was a still a landbarge by all comparison.

[Genopsyde]

damn, he was talkin like he been workin for ford since day one and was involved in the creation of all them models.

[bboyz28]

Hey Yo

Gm is not copying Ford or anything
1st)Mustang when it came out was a stupid punny car(like someone said)
2)Mustang was brought out to compete against corvette but couldnt take it.
3)The Camaro was built first than the mustang but it came out to market 1 week later than mustang due to some problems with GM CORP

[bboyz28]

So shut your mouth and think before you talk.

[burnM]

95gts95gt
GM copied Ford?! how do you think the first T-bird came to be? chevy built the first vette in '53. Ford made the t-bird in response to it! And don't forget the impala ss of the 90's- Ford built the mercury marauder in the same fashion a few years later. or the fin styling that started with the '55 chevy...or the ground pounding pontiacs like the catalina...

[burnM]

1963 Pontiac Catalina 421 SD
considered by many to be the first muscle car

[Hypsi87]

Originally Posted by bboyz28

Hey Yo

Gm is not copying Ford or anything
1st)Mustang when it came out was a stupid punny car(like someone said)
2)Mustang was brought out to compete against corvette but couldnt take it.
3)The Camaro was built first than the mustang but it came out to market 1 week later than mustang due to some problems with GM CORP

The mustang was not put out to compete with the corvette. If it was it would of come with something more than a inline six when it first came out. It was made to offer american drivers a chance to own a sporty car for a small cost compared to other fast cars of the day. There are all sorts of stories of how dealrships put there first mustang on a lift so everyone could see them and there where sooo many people that they could not get the car off the lift untill the end of the day. I got a blue boos on the history of the mustang from car and driver. Also I thought the first camaro was in 1967 Thats two years later than the mustang