Newbie skyline questions..

[jamezilla]

Originally Posted by IMPREZA MANG

damn, well how fast do u think 500whp r34 GT turbo would be in the Q/M?

The answer to that is right here with my 'length of a piece of string' notes...

To be serious - it depends on what else is done to the car. ie: weight modifications, tyre sizes and type (street, semi-slick, slick). If you are looking at that sort of power with 'street' modifcations (no NOS, full interior and radial semi-slick but street legal tyres eg: Nitto) you could be looking at high 11's.

Also - very much depends on the driver.

Case in point - a friend owns an HKS built, RB26 powered R33-GTS. It puts out about 350rwkw (about 400rwhp) and he ran a 12-flat on balding Pirelli P-Zeros. Full interior, experienced driver - car is very 'daily' drivable.

With a bit more boost, and better tyres - mid 11's.
Set yourself a reasonable goal - and aim for that - say 12.5sec.
If you get there easily, and still have some change - go for 11.9 and so on.

But as they say - HP cost money. How fast can you afford to go?

[IMPREZA MANG]

i can afford, to spend $1200 monthly and $2000 this summer, plus the car will be paid by me and my dad, since im goin army he doesnt have to pay for college so he'll help me out with the car...

however, i talked to some of my super mega smart WRX guys over a quatum racing in ohio and they know their imports, alot of people are gettign GTRs and makin them a single turbo, and still getting massive whp, like in this months super street (do luck skyline) and turbo magazine's godzilla artical each have singel turbo GTRs running huge power, with minimal applications...

heres what me research has brought me too..

im lookin into a GTR or GTST

800cc injectors, pumps, rails
HKS trubo prob T series or another
oil cooler, intercooler, brembos
control arms, struts, sways
crank, cam, gears, con-rods, and pistons

btw thanks for the help mangs

those are pretty much all i want to upgrade, and over course sparco seats, and electronics and ECU tunning

[sami]

Originally Posted by IMPREZA MANG

im lookin into a GTR or GTST

No, you're not. The way it sounds, only GT-R would do. GT-R and GTS-T, totally different animals.

[IMPREZA MANG]

mmm, ok, dont really know the RB25s limits and potential, i have search google to death, i can barel find places to check out performence parts from major manufactures...

the problem is i cant find a under 25k GTR, plus the cost of leagalization, i've talked to 2 guys on car domain.com (i can find the links if u want) that have GTSTs with 700whp, w/o heavy mods, just simple stuff lie cranks, cams, pistons, and coolin stuff

if u or anyone knows where i could check out any online sites sellin skylines to US, please LMK thanks

[sami]

Originally Posted by IMPREZA MANG

mmm, ok, dont really know the RB25s limits and potential, i have search google to death, i can barel find places to check out performence parts from major manufactures...

www.skylinesdownunder.com

Originally Posted by IMPREZA MANG

the problem is i cant find a under 25k GTR, plus the cost of leagalization

Motorex and RBMotoring sell GT-R's in the low 30's, already legalized.

Originally Posted by IMPREZA MANG

i've talked to 2 guys on car domain.com (i can find the links if u want) that have GTSTs with 700whp, w/o heavy mods, just simple stuff lie cranks, cams, pistons, and coolin stuff

LOL. I wouldn't listen to guys from cardomain.com. I bet they also had 2000whp turboed McLaren F1's too.

[IMPREZA MANG]

cool thANKZ mang

cardomain'ers are pretty tooooo much into their lies or themselves i guess, but thanks for the help, moto-rex, like sells out so quick i can never give a diposit slip in time, o well, ill just call them up

[jamezilla]

700HP at the wheels - with stock turbos?
Bwaa-hahahaha
No. No. No.

Anyway - what do they consider 'heavy mods' if block internals are covered in the 'not-so-heavy' category?

Basically - the RB series engines are strong. With the right combination of breathing, forced induction - and with the backup of better internals, you can make big power from an RB25, and run it more than once.

Bottom line is - you have to decide what it is YOU want and what you can realistically acheive with your time/budget/resources. The 'specs' you have listed above is easily in the realm of $40k - on top of the car price. Is this doable?

Also - do you want to continue driving the car on the street? Big turbo = boost at much higher RPM, so yes you have power, but you don't have the responsiveness for more than 1/4mile applications. Let's not even get into putting that kind of power to the ground via street tyres... in the wet? Forget it.

My car is basically stock (exhaust, EBC) - and will run a low 12. With high-flowed stock turbos (steel impeller - allows higher boost) - say 11.9. That's plenty fast

Best of luck.
James

[IMPREZA MANG]

i obviously didnt mean stock turbos w/700 whp

i was just planing on full exhaust, crank, cam, cam gears, conrods, piston heads, bigge turbo, fuel rail, 800cc injectors, fuel pumps, and oil cooler, and intercooler, thats pretty much it for whut i have planned for the engine, of a RB25DEtt

[RazorGTR]

Originally Posted by IMPREZA MANG

i obviously didnt mean stock turbos w/700 whp

i was just planing on full exhaust, crank, cam, cam gears, conrods, piston heads, bigge turbo, fuel rail, 800cc injectors, fuel pumps, and oil cooler, and intercooler, thats pretty much it for whut i have planned for the engine, of a RB25DEtt

Ok this is the part of the thread that that I say, Stick with your "slowbaru's", get an evo, get a pinto, anything but a Skyline. You obviously have no concept of what you want, what you are saying, how to go about it, the can of worms you are opening, or where you are going or what you are talking about.

I could write a full list list on what would be needed to not only achieve but what you are wishing for. Honestly I can't be bothered.


This thread has run its course and should be a poster quote for noobs who think they have any concept of what is viablely achievable based on a pultry budget vs absolutely not a fucking idea how to go about it and what it will really cost in the long run.