fwd/rwd vs awd

[LjasonL]

Originally Posted by EC0T3C

Id say FWD because its plain and simple look at the gm FWD drag car using a 1000 hp Ecotec 4banger running 7's

1. That has nothing to do with street cars

2. The same setup, but RWD, would be faster.

[-The Stig-]

Originally Posted by ldelaysionl

1. That has nothing to do with street cars

2. The same setup, but RWD, would be faster.

I do believe, You are right sir.

[DkShadow]

RWD for me, plus who says AWD will always out-launch a RWD? Slap on some drag radials or slicks and lets see where Mr. AWD is at

[OoNismoO]

well if both the rwd and awd had z rated street tires, then as we all know, the awd should out launch it. if the rwd had slicks, and awd had z rated street tires, the awd should still out launch it, but of course it would be much closer.

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by ldelaysionl

1. That has nothing to do with street cars

2. The same setup, but RWD, would be faster.

as redneck said.....you be right he be wrong



man I O3nz teh grammer



anyway RWD is much better than a FWD setup especially in drag racing



the only weakness that i see in rwd is during wet icy or snow conditions.....in those case RWD cars are much harder to control

[2strokebloke]

Under normal conditions, the difference in performance between a FWD and RWD car would be so minimal it wouldn't even matter. Around corners, RWD has an advantage over FWD. However, if there were corners, and any amount of slippery stuff (be it rain, snow, ice, or gravel) FWD would pretty much punch RWD in the teeth, and AWD would be the overall winner.

[Jimster]

For straight out drag-racing- AWD- by a nose over RWD- FWD isn't quite as good in this respect

BUT!


Show any nicely engineered FWD chassis (As you'd find in Honda, Alfa Romeo, Peugeot or some VW's) a road-course and then it's another story- the FWD understeer can be nearly eliminated by any decent driver (But it still won't round the corner as nicely as something driving the Rear Wheels- but the RWD tends to be more unstable) and generally show up many AWD and RWD Cars at the same time

Well thats basically what I've experienced when driving different drivetrains................It all comes down to preferences I guess.


EDIT: OK I was a little optimisitc when I said some FWD VW's- the best ones are still the Mk1 and Mk2 Golfs......

[LjasonL]

You guys are forgetting he's talking about street cars. No drag slicks, or even "street legal" cheater slicks. And you have to be expected to perform in any condition, potholes, gravel, dirt, off camber corners, blind corners, etc, not just racetrack conditions. You have to have a confidence inspiring car, and it has to be forgiving enough that you can easily recover when things do get bad, there's no sandpits and tire barriers on the outside of corners in the real world.

AWD is definately NOT the optimal setup for track racing, but it is on the road. Look at rally, that's probably the only series that actually runs races on real world roads in real world conditions (not all rallies are on dirt). And what's the setup of choice in rally cars?

There's my opinion anyways, on the kind of performance that matters to me. I'm sure some of you could care less about some of the things I mentioned.

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by ldelaysionl

You guys are forgetting he's talking about street cars. No drag slicks, or even "street legal" cheater slicks. And you have to be expected to perform in any condition, potholes, gravel, dirt, off camber corners, blind corners, etc, not just racetrack conditions. You have to have a confidence inspiring car, and it has to be forgiving enough that you can easily recover when things do get bad, there's no sandpits and tire barriers on the outside of corners in the real world.

AWD is definately NOT the optimal setup for track racing, but it is on the road. Look at rally, that's probably the only series that actually runs races on real world roads in real world conditions (not all rallies are on dirt). And what's the setup of choice in rally cars?

There's my opinion anyways, on the kind of performance that matters to me. I'm sure some of you could care less about some of the things I mentioned.

i agree with that....in controled track conditions RWD is the better setup but considering that most streets suck and the surface can change anytime on you not to mention rain, snow, dirt, ice etc.....in those conditions AWD is nice to have

[youngvr4]

awd isn't good on a track
oh, i guess there's no such thing as an evo7 or 8
and i guess those were just fairytales when someone said there was such thing as an sti,
2 cars with some of the best handling out, drivetrain AWD

didn't i sound like a dick when i said that

[LjasonL]

There are always exceptions, and even so, I could name 50 cars that aren't AWD that handle better than those 2.

Why do you think Porsce drops AWD from it's high performance track models? The high end street models, 911 turbo and 911 C4S, are AWD. The even more high dollar "track" models, 911 gt3, gt2, or gt1, are RWD

[youngvr4]

i'm calling your bluff
name 50 cars for under 50grand that handle better
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btw where at in arkansas do you live, all my fam is from wilmar,arkansas

[RedLightning]

Id go with rwd, because of the weight issues.

[LjasonL]

I didn't say under 50 grand. The STi and EVO ARE great bargains, but they're not the end-all be-all of handlers.

I live in Paris, Arkansas.

[youngvr4]

well of course theres the enzo and gt40 and mclaren
but what about cars that you might actually see on the road
there really isn't none that can out handle the two
now modify a evo8 tothe price of a nsx and it will out handle mostly anything, not tryna get on mods but just the fact that those two cars are perfect examples of awd rally nasty handling capabilities.
unless you go into the $100,000 realm, there really is no car that out handles the two.