best car engineering?

[andera]

Originally Posted by SuBaRuRuLeS

Once again, Subaru is a Japanese company.

Does Fuji Heavy Industries sound Australian to you?????

out of pure curiosity did you read the whole thread or read 2 post and then post this?

[MioCLK]

Germany is no question the leader in the technology field.
They also builds a more "stable" car, I guess that because they were designed for the autobahns.
But I would say Japanese builds more reliable cars.
My family owns /owned car from both Germany (Mercedes, BMW, Porsche) and Japan (Isuzu, Nissan, Toyota, Mazda),
the Japanese cars always had less problems, or even no problems.
As for the German cars....they all have some kind of electrical problems
Now I have a Mazda for everyday driving and a Mercedes for weekends

[hockeygod2787]

Greman all the way!!!!!!





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[Ground Rat]

SUBARU IS A JAPANESE COMPANY!!! LOL...j/k man. Some people, huh? I would guess Germany, although I don't have any personal experience with German built cars. But from what I've seen and read about Mercedes in particular, Germany all the way. What do you guys think is one of the best engineered cars? I would guess a Mercedes Unimog, although it's not really a car.

[ToyTundra]

japanese all the way. Specifically Toyota but not including the Tundra. Benz went down hill when Chrysler came aboard IMO.

[mycivic]

id go for the germans if i could afford it. their cars are too pricey.

daily driving=japanese cars
weekend driving=german cars

[higgimonster]

Originally Posted by ToyTundra

japanese all the way. Specifically Toyota but not including the Tundra. Benz went down hill when Chrysler came aboard IMO.

what happened was more like Diamler picked up chrysler and took over operations. Not much has changed for the german company except now they have a huge american company to shape anyway they see fit.

That new Crossfire is made out of mostly merc parts (off the slk i think)

[justacruiser]

http://trial.which.co.uk/motoring.ph...ty&roi=1000215

"Dont know if that will work or not, but this is what it basically says:Our latest car reliability survey reveals German brands are on the slide, while Ford is on the up

'If only everything in life was as reliable as a Volkswagen' is one of the best known advertising slogans of recent years. So why doesn't VW use it any more? Maybe it's because the message was starting to wear thin with its customers. Certainly the feedback we've received from VW owners this year shows that it no longer rings true.

There's worrying news for the other VW brands (Audi, Seat and Skoda), too, along with Mercedes-Benz. Meanwhile, Ford, a former poor performer in the reliability stakes, has made big strides towards improving the reliability of its cars."

I've known this for years, it's why you'd have to bury me in a Benz before I'd ever own one and it amazes me that they sell at all. MAYBE their engines could hold up well, but their interiors, despite "looking nice" according to most here, are the worst interiors I've seen so far in wear and tear ability. Especially Volkswagens. Headliners drooping, sunroofs not working, dashes cracking like crazy... etc. Bavarian Motor Works? Jesus....H.....Christ. If Anything goes wrong with a BMWs electrical system, just drive/drag/tow/push it to a field, burn it, and collect insurance money. Trust me, you'd be saving yourself some serious headache. When it comes to overall longevity, I'll have to go with the Japanese on this. I've personally seen some horrendous lemons made by them, but they are few and far between in the jap crowd. Still... I've gotta love my old yanktanks.
BTW, notice it's a UK site? No American bias on that one guys.

[Jimster]

Actually, my experience with VW's is that the Interiors have been built to an extremely high standard, headliners have never fallen out, dashes look like new after 15 years, same with MErc Benz- BMW are more questionable- but usually thier cars that roll off the Munich lines are built to an extremely high standard as well- though they appear to have a higher lemon-rate than most............And there is the 7 sries issue as well- if the Computer in charge of the cars electrical system breaks down, the whole car is fucked

[justacruiser]

Wow, you've been really lucky then with their interiors then. My pal Kevin has owned 2 80's Jettas and I knew a guy from college who had a 96 Jetta. The 80s ones both had the same things happening, the headliners were hanging in the back, the material on the door panels was beginning to blister, so it was about to peel, the dash was almost non-existant, the sunroof in one of the 80s ones didn't work because the (plastic) crank handle broke off... etc. Oh, and the little plastic snaps on the lovely shift linkage they came up with decided to break. More than once, nearly stranding us. Now, the one from the 80s with a sunroof was a diesel Jetta, so it did run forever and got damn good fuel mileage. But the interior fell completely apart. I don't like the way the Jettas shift either, some people call it smooth, I call it 'butter', as in I can't even feel what gear I'm shifting to. I've had enough with Volkswagen just catchin rides Kevin and Rene and drivin those heaps.

[Jimster]

hmmmm......I bought my younger brother a 1991 Mk2 Jetta last year- had 200,000+ km's, the interior was in good nick, considering it had to drive over the VOlcano-chipped roads of New Zealand (The Ultimate test for build-quality) before he totalled it, the trim had come off from the side mirror (plastic that covered it and the handbrake, otherwise the interior quality was impressive.


Perhaps it is because there was Mexican assembly of some US JEttas (My brothers one was from Germany)

[inspiron]

Originally Posted by SuBaRuRuLeS

Once again, Subaru is a Japanese company.

Does Fuji Heavy Industries sound Australian to you?????

the master of all round sports car is the ero cars

but as for cheap car that goes like a bat out of hell on strates i'll go with the all american corvette (starts masturbaiting)

[Zwrangler]

I'd have to say the Euro cars like ferrari would probably have to have the best engineered engines. HOWEVER, as a total package I really don't think there are many cars that come close to the R34 Skyline GTR. YEs we all know the ferrari could beat a GTR in a straight line race, But the GTR would completely thrash the ferrari's around a track. I don't think there would be many cars that would match the superb handling and performance combination of a GTR. And all for a substantially lower price than any ferrari or other such rival. thus why the GTR has to be my pick for best all round engineering.

[calgary_redneck]

I hardly would give vw and audi the cretit of making reliable cars infact nothing could be farther from the truth. If I had to pick the car companies that made the least reliable cars on the road today it would have to be vw(audi) and dodge. Granted the benz up in till recently were very durable cars how ever in the past several years their quality seems to have fallen off and as for the new bmw 7 series I'm not gonna ever start.

[andera]

Originally Posted by Zwrangler

I'd have to say the Euro cars like ferrari would probably have to have the best engineered engines. HOWEVER, as a total package I really don't think there are many cars that come close to the R34 Skyline GTR. YEs we all know the ferrari could beat a GTR in a straight line race, But the GTR would completely thrash the ferrari's around a track. I don't think there would be many cars that would match the superb handling and performance combination of a GTR. And all for a substantially lower price than any ferrari or other such rival. thus why the GTR has to be my pick for best all round engineering.

dude, but seriously i dont think i've laughed that hard in so long. a skyline? handling better than a ferrari??? Ferraris can handle themselves upwards of 180mph... umm can a skyline even go taht fast? Porsche, do you think a skyline can outhandle a porsche 911? it just doesnt happen. a skyline cannot keep up with a 911 turbo, thats all their is too it. granted the skyline is hell fast (waht 4.8 0-60)... but with a few mods to a porsche 951 (stock 170mph and 0-60 in 5.5ish) you can have it going 0-60 in under 5 seconds and it'll outhandle any skyline out there.... just my 2cents though. if you cant afford a 911 turbo (i know i cant haha)... skyline would be good LOL. i'd rather put the money you'd spend on a skyline into a 944 turbo though, but that's just meh. GERMAN ENGINEERING RULES! hehe