RX-7 vs. 3000gt

[EfiniRX7]

The Home Depot needle valve boost controller isn't quite as wonderful as you may think. It's pretty inacurate and hard to tune. I had them on mine and I could never get the boost quite right. To run 17lbs you'd definately need upgraded turbos, but I've known of a few guys that have run that much on stockers with okay results, but that's actually at the bleeding edge of their efficiency. Good luck with your purchase Z06, but definately make sure you research the cars A LOT and get it checked out by a qualified rotary specialist before buying one. It's nothing like purchasing an S2000 or Vette. Check out www.scuderiaciriani.com for a buyers guide and TONS of info on them before just plunking your money down unless you have a lot of it to throw around

[Vr4Joe]

josedi!!!! You really don't know what your talking about. You really don't. I can't even believe you think the Rx-7 is sooo much better than the 3000GT Vr4. When the Vr4 came out in 91' it was one of the fastest cars in the world. Not even the corvettes could touch them. The combination between the twin turbo and the all wheel drive is mind blowing!!! I don't know where your getting your information, but for a RX-7 to become a 9 second car you would have to get an engine swap. The stock RX-7 engine couldn't handle more than 900 hp. The 3000GT can run 9's with the same engine it was built with. For you to dis the 3000GT is a huge mistake and you need to do your research. I would put my life savings on the 3000GT Vr4 if it raced an RX-7. I don't have anything against the RX-7, heck it's a great car, but i'm sorry, your wrong about the 3000GT. For you to make that statement, i know you haven't driven a VR4. Because they will blow you mind...

And the other guy who said that the 3000GT isn't a sportcar because it had backseats! You have to be the stupidest person alive. Your telling me that the 1969 Z28 Camero isn't a sport car. It has backseats, and what do you know, it pushes 450 hp STOCK!! YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!!!!

[Jims5543]

Here is a a rotary is capable of:

Keep in mind this isnt even a FD or 3rd gen engine its a second gen engine with a street port pushing 25 PSI.

http://www.jims5543.com/gallery/album03

I am still waiting to meet a VR-4 that can even run close to me. I used to get nervous when I came upon one on the street. Now I smirk knowing what is going to happen.

[MR2Driver]

Originally Posted by Vr4Joe

josedi!!!! You really don't know what your talking about. You really don't. I can't even believe you think the Rx-7 is sooo much better than the 3000GT Vr4. When the Vr4 came out in 91' it was one of the fastest cars in the world. Not even the corvettes could touch them. The combination between the twin turbo and the all wheel drive is mind blowing!!! I don't know where your getting your information, but for a RX-7 to become a 9 second car you would have to get an engine swap. The stock RX-7 engine couldn't handle more than 900 hp. The 3000GT can run 9's with the same engine it was built with. For you to dis the 3000GT is a huge mistake and you need to do your research. I would put my life savings on the 3000GT Vr4 if it raced an RX-7. I don't have anything against the RX-7, heck it's a great car, but i'm sorry, your wrong about the 3000GT. For you to make that statement, i know you haven't driven a VR4. Because they will blow you mind...

And the other guy who said that the 3000GT isn't a sportcar because it had backseats! You have to be the stupidest person alive. Your telling me that the 1969 Z28 Camero isn't a sport car. It has backseats, and what do you know, it pushes 450 hp STOCK!! YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!!!!

Wow you sound like an enthusiast with no facts to back yourself up, what exactly did you disagree with Jose on? Lets see, his points were...

1. Its overweight: And it is...
2. Handles poorly: And it does, AWD is only a superior layout in off weather, a 50:50 weight distro FR or MR will outcorner the understeering AWDs (with the exception of those with Skyline-esque drivetrains)
3. It will not kill anything: there are many a faster car, and many a car that will get significantly better power to weight gains per mod.
4. The RX-7 is a cornering masterpiece: And it is...
5. Its not a sports car: Its not, its a Grand Touring car, do your homework kid...

[Aruba27]

did no one notice that this thread is 3 years old? either way, the RX would totaly dominate, VR0-4s are just too heavy and produce too little power to compensate for that. All wheel steering will only get you so far when you're pushing that kind of weight around.

[Soyo]

yea... december of 2001 this was started, why open it and just argue?

drag strip, the vr-4 could take the rx-7 I think, just because AWD will get it off the line quick, but in a road coarse the rx-7 will kill the vr-4, heck it might even lap it (sarcasam)

[RX-DrIFTER-7]

Vr4Joe:Wen the Vr4 came out in 91' it was one of the fastest cars in the world : LOL u a funny guy man VR4 fastest car in tha world~!!! man GTR's Own BACK THEN did u know that??~!!! =D and a Corvette will eat up vr4s like nothin knowin that i dont like Boats either

[3rdGenLuvr]

VR4Joe: When do you graduate HS?
You are such a riot! LMAO! What put me over the edge was this>
"Your telling me that the 1969 Z28 Camero isn't a sport car. It has backseats, and what do you know, it pushes 450 hp STOCK!!"

Can you say muscle car? Camaro's were NEVER considered a true 'sports' car you dope! I dont care how much HP it had/has! LOL

[Aruba27]

wasn't this thread locked? this is freakin old... but to make a point, if you went by horsepower...

http://www.supercars.net/cars/1995@$Renault@$Espace%20F1%20Conceptg.html

don't tell me that's a sportscar because it has 800 hp... that's a minivan if i ever saw one. 3rdgenluvr is right, camaros were never sports cars, they've always been considered "compact cars" that's why you can get one from a rental place.

[darknite23]

i just got a 93 rx-7 and its completely stock.i just purchased the car about 2 weeks ago and i can say im very satisfied with its power and handling and i know this doesnt really count but ive raced my freind who happens to have a vr-4(i have a little car crew) his has a hks exaust system and i still won bye about 3 cars either hes a crappy driver(hes really not) or my car is just that damn fast and id also like to correct some of the stats you guys posted cause i was at the track last saterday and i 0-60 in 4.98secs and my best 1/4 et was 13.471 secs i wish i had a scanner to post the pix i still have the slips hopefully ill get one soon and also im familiar with rotary engines but not an expert so what should my first modefication be.thanx

[3rdGenLuvr]

DarkNite23: Congrats on the new purchase!
Im not sure if ur familiar with this SITE but it is a MUST see if you want to learn everythng there is to learn about that car, including all the recommended RELIABILTY mods and performance mods.
If you have any specific questions dont hesitate to email me direct!

Gdluck!

[racerh03]

yes the 1/4 times are more like in the mid 13's stock, also a friend of mine has a 94 vr-4 and couldnt even pull hard from a mazda protege. how bad is that no joke. i think personally 3000gt's are shitty cars and should be taken off the maket!

[Soyo]

3000gt's would be pretty decent cars if they went on a diet and shed about 500 lbs(atleast) but I'd still rather have a rx-7

[drftk1d]

3000gt would only be decent if it lost aleast 500 lb and was RWD based instead of FWD based like it is.

[DevoutWankelist]

Originally Posted by drftk1d

3000gt would only be decent if it lost aleast 500 lb and was RWD based instead of FWD based like it is.

<-----Died laughing.