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#16
09-17-2003, 12:39 PM
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well not really.... if we wanted to get technical....
the fastest cars in the world are not powered by v8's.... no they are not Top Fuel Dragsters how about that rocket car that almost breaks the sound barrier?  one of the fastest accelerating street legal cars in the world is a GTR from Veilside though. Close behind it is a Ligenfelter twin turbo'd C5 with a LS1 stroked to 427ci, but it was on racing tires... So if we want to count dragsters and top fuel, lets just throw in the rocket powered cars and beat everyone's dick down. I don't own a S12....... I've seen KA's tuned by regular people put out more power then most SR's I've seen, the only SR's I seen that put out more then 500+hp are from Signal and a few other tuners in Japan. One of the highest powered SR's I seen in the states does 430rwhp, like I said someone had a 500+hp KA24de that ran 10's as a drag car, but it did use NOS to get 500+hp... normally I believe it was in the High 400hp bracket. Plus a KA24DE usually, not in all circumstances though.... will put down more torque then a SR will, especially ones that are tuned highly.... HP is for bragging rights..... torque gets you down the road. If I had a 200,000 budget to build a race engine I would probably pick the SR, but for a regular street engine I think the KA24 is a better choice, and plus its far more abundant in the USA to get spare parts for it. We've had these arguments time and time again on the 240 forums, you aren't gonna tell me much that I don't know about the dispute, thanks for trying to enlighten some of us though. |
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#17
09-17-2003, 01:49 PM
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Re: 3rd Gen Camaro and I..
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1/4 mile would be a NHRA Top Fuel Dragster... obviously nothing comes close. Only thing those jet powered cars have in common with cars is that they have four wheels. I personally dont consider them 'cars' due to the fact that the motor (jet) isn't powering any wheels. It's just a jetfighter with no wings... basically a sled. FYI: They broke the sound barrier like two years ago using a jet powered car. EDIT: Now that I think about it, those jet powered cars might only have 3 wheels. In tricycle arrangement... Getting less and less car like as we speak. 
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#18
09-17-2003, 01:52 PM
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Youve Been Owned!
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#19
09-17-2003, 03:30 PM
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so JET DAGSTERS aren't really dragsters?
why does the NHRA of all people...... call them that and have a class? they don't have any power going to the wheels.......... also I think a rocket will accelerate faster then a top fuel car, even the jet dragsters do I believe.... think about it no drive wheels to loose traction, instant thrust that is WAY more powerful then a reciporating engine..... The Military abandoned reciporating engines back in WW2, they moved onto jet engines, hmmm maybe theres a reason for that, Rockets, are even more powerful then jet engines but are more dangerous in their fuel and take a lot of it, its not feasible to have a rocket powered plane, although the germans had one, the ME-163 Komet, it would skyrocket up to 40,000feet, depleting all its fuel, make a pass on bombers with a 40mm cannon and have to glide back down to earth with no power and often crash away from their airfield... not the coolest job lol. joo bin OWN3D now..... shit I sound like a Honda ricer 
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#20
09-17-2003, 03:46 PM
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and just to be pigheaded and correct....... since u wanted to be a sissy....
"As an added bonus for the spectators, St. Capitol Dragway featured JET DRAGSTERS as an exhibition class. Marvin Celsur (Rowlett TX) driving the Lone Star Lightning defeated Angel Hortons Jet Set with a run of 4.98 e.t. @ 315.01 MPH." "......309.77-mph in the final round of the season-opening NHRA AutoZone Winternationals just outside of Los Angeles." so in the 1/4 mile..... a jet dragster reaches speeds faster then a Top Fuel Dragster did for the win in the Final round....... |
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09-17-2003, 04:17 PM
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SR20DETpower:
With all your witty responses to RedNeck so far, you haven't picked-up on the fact that he never said that the jet-dragsters aren't dragsters. Hell, a lawn-mower drag-machine is still a dragster. All he said, basically, that in his opinion, he doesn't even consider "jet-cars" cars. He considers it what it is: a rocket-powered roller-skate.
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09-17-2003, 05:17 PM
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I consider anything with more then 2 wheels and a seat that is powered somehow by an engine of some sort to propel it along a vehicle....
lets not start arguiing like a buncha 16 year old girls now... Im above that level lets just let it die if you will...... |
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09-17-2003, 05:36 PM
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Ugh... You say you don't want to argue like a 16 year old girl? Yet you say statements like these...
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Anywho... Jet Dragsters on average do not run faster than their regular V8 counterparts. I say average cause not always can the standard dragsters get traction due to variable track conditions or the weather is crap... hey nothings perfect. Infact... Tony Schumacher just broke the All time record with a 4.465 ET. And might I also point out that they regularly hit 320-330mph trap speeds? Not too much quicker, but faster than the roman candle sleds you seem to just wuv 2 deff! Apple Sauce Bitch
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09-17-2003, 10:41 PM
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If you bothered to read what i wrote and not what you want to interpret what I wrote i said QUICKEST.
1. The top fuel dragsters and funny cars are quicker than any jet or rocket car in the quarter mile. That is what you quoted. 2. You compared a KA turbed to an n/a motor. 3. How the hell can we go from car engines to jet engines? 4. For your information the 300zx twin turbos are not that impressive. they are heavier than you think they are. I know I raced against enough of them and my old skyline GTS-t 2 liter rwd single turbo beat many on the strip and street. Half of what you have said thus far isn't correct nor are your assumptions. You may want to do a bit more research before you wind up being known as a complete tosser and no one will take you seriously.
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09-17-2003, 11:07 PM
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Re: 3rd Gen Camaro and I..
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09-18-2003, 01:41 AM
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Basically, someone will always run faster, for longer, for cheaper than you no matter what. Someone will always beat you.
I find the sudden argument about building a Turbo KA engine over any other engine in the world for $200,000 or less is quite pointless. No one even flamed a KA engine or a 240sx in this thread untill you brought it up. Stop being so dang biased about practically everything 240sx, and stop arguing uneccessarily. Oh ya, and don't go thinking that I have something against 240's or KA's or whatever because I was gonna buy a s13240.. but a better deal on the stang came up first. Goodnight.
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#27
09-18-2003, 07:25 AM
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nobody flaming the 240, it was brought up as an example. People turbocharge their 240's and run them for the longest times with no problems, I think one guy has had his running for 3 years without a problem...... so I guess they are just all cheap plastic pieces of shit probe look a likes huh?
on that note of you buygin good parts for the 305, my brother has Hooker shit on his Impala SS, headers and catback, and its always f'n up, leaks bad...... bad pulsation noises, droning noises, headers leak.... real good expensive parts there buddy....... a 200,000 dollar figure was thrown in as a comparison, who the hell was talking about building or having a 200k engine? I was just saying on the street Id rather have a KA24, but if I was making a serious tube frame track car, and had some real deep pockets, I would probably use a built up SR over the KA...... you all take shit the wrong way and try to exploit it to make someone look like an ass, in reality all i see is a bunch of bickering girls making everyone seem like an ass so that you look better, its takes 2 people to have an argument. I said I would stop arguing but nobody else did so here we go..... 2. yep I compared a 4 cylinder to an 8 cylinder, has half the displacement and half the cylinders.... I think a 4 banger with a turbo is a fair comparison to a v8 that is N/A, shit even just about every v8 guy says theres no replacement for displacement, so with taht in mind it is still an unfair comparison for the 4 banger because it could never be as good in that sense......... 3. well it is rather radical, but just to prove a point that shit is faster then v8's lol....... 4. where were we talking about z32's? |
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#28
09-18-2003, 07:27 AM
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Re: Re: 3rd Gen Camaro and I..
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I love how you assume Im a ricer with APC stickers on my car and a 6" exhaust pipe........ shit I probably know more about working on v8 cars then you do and I don't even like the f'n things  where do you work son? Burger King? I work at a transmission shop lol I doubt you know a hell of a lot more then I do on cars, and I've probably driven 100x the amount of cars you have in your life, I've driven so many v8 vehicles it is funny, and only 1 has really impressed me. Another domestic that impressed me, but not a v8, was a 12 second GN we had in the shop, that was a nice ride. and most 3rd gens are REAL REAL slow, hell a whole slew of brand new imports stock for stock with 4 bangers will send that camaro crying back to momma...hell even the new Accord coupe will beat the shit out of that, 5.0 or 4.6 sohc Stangs, and thats a honda built as a family cruiser.....downright pitiful if you ask me I could make a long list, but I don't feel like being an ass and ruining your hopes of how fast a v8 is in your mind. |
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09-18-2003, 12:38 PM
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SR20DETpower:
All you are doing is perpetuating an argument that YOU started. The 240 was not even involved in ANY way in the original story. This thread ends here, and your pointless arguing will too, if you are to heed this warning. Hijack another well-meaning thread in this way again, and I won't even bother warning you. We CAN do timed bans here. I'll give you a week-off.
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