Skyline hype?!?

[TURBOSATURN]

The skyline is just a car that is impossible dislike, its just flawless!

[Honoturtle]

Put it this way, Skyline is a car that is practically unobtainable here in America, that's why they are such prized legendary cars that almost all import lovers want to own or even see some day. Plus, Scale Auto Style makes a variety of bodykits for this particular model car .

[TURBOSATURN]

not that its "unobtainable," you just need lots of money to "obtain" it.

[willimo]

You call the Skyline a good solid car, and ask so what? If the car is just another good, solid car, then why did the R32 dominate the JGTCC for years? Despite ballast, restrictions, and controls imposed on them by the racing body? Why do Skylines continue to pretty much dominate the JGTCC? It's an amazing machine, plain and simple. Why is being a good, solid car not a good thing? Since when has that been the norm? (By the way, it's not a good solid car, it's a great, solid car.) The Skyline has a certain magic, probably partly because it is unavailable to us, but mostly because it is the undisputed tuning God. There are essentially no limits to what you can do with the engine, the car. It is a testiment to what a car company can do; making grocery getters on one assembly line, and a perfomance icon on another. For a company like Nissan to make a car on par with Ferrarris (not all Ferrarris, mind you) is a feat in and of it self.

If you want to pretend to be all knowledgable about cars, why not ask "Why do so many fanboys build Civics? It's just a economy car. The name, 'Civic,' denotes its responsibility to the pocketbook, environment and community. So why do so many people pretend that the Civic is such a great car?" 'Cause it's a good, solid car.

And where's the fun in only building cars you can own? If I did that, I'd be limited to cars costing less than $10,000. That severely limits my selection, and interest.... What's the fun in modelling, if not building the cars you want, but cannot afford? Living vicariously through styrene?

Don't be silly, boy. Since when have there only been 5 in the US? Did you look up the 1984 registry or something? And since when have there been more Skyline kits than any other car? You don't imagine there are more Corvette kits out there? Fendered Fords? T-buckets? Camaros? I don't know where you're getting these "facts" that you quote so diligently (and intelligently, I must add)

And don't be sillier still, it looks nothing like a Corolla. Have you seen a Skyline? Since when have the kits been identical? And can you point out why it hasn't evolved? It looks to me like it's been following a pretty regular, and impressive evolutionary line since Prince made them back in the mid '60's

Don't be so hot to talk about something you know squat about.

[mech0t0]

I love all skylines.... handling, acceleration. Specially R34, 6 speed manual transmission! Due to the regulation in Japan, Nissin has to tune the R34 down, to 280 hp (max hp stock car)! The GT wing is so attractive! In Gran Turismo 2, Skyline has is one of the best design on light weight level 3. R34 doesn't need any Nitro with proper tune and upgrade parts, I think 2F2F has damage the image of the R34!!!

[freakmech]

im mearly asking why it is so popular and you have all made strong points that i agree with... thats all i wanted to know. i thought it would be a good topic of discussion and it has been so far. im just trying contribute some interest to this forum is all since im new here. i noticed the majority of you talk and build Skyline. i want ed to know why.

WILLIMO....anytime a car manufacturer introduces a sports or touring class car there are one of two reasons. ONE to grab the interest of consumers of such cars. TWO to optimise a cars engine and chassis to specifications of a certain race class in order to be competitive in "production car based racing". two good examples are nascars and there consumer available counter parts(grand prix, intrepid etc...) and another being JGTCC.... both these racing classes require that the car be in production so no doubt this was taken into account in the development of the Skyline but the Silvia has done well too so Nissan Race Division clearly has a large part in developing both these models.
also i never said i was all knowing about cars but i do research my interest extensively. as of the new year there where only 5 r34s officially imported to the US. this does not count for cars that were first brought to Canada then the US.. these do not have to be Federally registered as the major taxes do not apply. and finally.... you havent ever seen a european Corolla have you... well i hope this post has been enjoyable but i will stop posting in fear of being blamed for looking for attention. im just trying to have an intelligent conversion about our hobby is all.

[JDM Wagon]

just thought i would throw this in. nissan is going donw hill hard here in japan. lowest manufacturer on the totem pole and closing quite a few branches.

anyhow most americans build skylines because what other car (thats affordable) can produce the power and handling straight from the dealer. that is what i think make s the skyline unique. just my 2 cents

[Chain]

Hey, dont let it bother you and dont be easily discourage to post. If you think its a good discussion for something and you r genuine to find out more, please go ahead.

Let the mods decide if the topic is off or deemed inappropriate. I'm am sure yours isnt.

So, go build more models and enjoy your stay

cheers
Aloysius aka
Chain

[Hiroboy]

We have loads in the UK

[blueboost]

Originally posted by JDM Wagon
just thought i would throw this in. nissan is going donw hill hard here in japan. lowest manufacturer on the totem pole and closing quite a few branches.

anyhow most americans build skylines because what other car (thats affordable) can produce the power and handling straight from the dealer. that is what i think make s the skyline unique. just my 2 cents

can you enlighten us a little on how nissan is going down hard in Japan? here in america everyone wants to tune hondas generally speaking, and in Japan it seems to be silvias and skylines and countless other worthy cars. BUT it does seem from what I've learned that Japanese tuners are very much interested in Nissans for motorsports.

anyways I like the skyline because my first car was a nissan my car now is a nissan all I've ever owned are nissans I LOVE nissan cars. Naturally I learned of the skyline and silvia many years ago and have been obsessed ever since (wanting what I cannot have like many of you I presume)

[Honoturtle]

Originally posted by TURBOSATURN
not that its "unobtainable," you just need lots of money to "obtain" it.

Well, I labeled it "unobtainable" because how many of us have the money to afford such a car to be imported here? And it isn't going to be the best daily driver if you spent all your money into that one car.

Chain is right, keep the conversation up, and if someone does blame you for "trying to get attention," so what? I'll back you up, just as long as you are posting correct content that is related to the topic.

[willimo]

You have a point about production based race cars. However, you'd probably help your argument by not including NASCAR, since the only thing those cars share with their production counterparts is the name on the side. Otherwise, they are tube framed, glass bodied cars with carbureted engines. Yes, Skylines and the like are race-on-Sunday, sell-on-Monday cars. However, to say that this the whole reason these cars exist would be to ignore the entire intent of motorsports and high performance cars. And, I personally feel, would be an insult to the engineers and designers responsible for the cars.

The reason the Skyline exists in GT-R trim (don't forget it has humbler roots) and the reason the NSX exists at all, and the reason Mazda keeps trying to sell rotories is pretty simple: The technology they put on the coolest, baddest, fasted cars today, will eventually be cheap and therefore can be used on all cars, making cars more efficient, faster, safer, quieter, cleaner, and in general, better.

The Skyline is the perfect example-- the turbo set up allows it to make enormous power efficiently, which could later allow medium performance cars to sip fuel. The marvelous AWD system the Skyline sports makes it better handling, on the racetrack and street. A technology that could be later passed on to passenger cars, allowing people to conduct them more safely. I could go on, but I don't want to type all night.

Thing is, think you're missing the point. The Sylvia is a great car, also, but where did the Sylvia get it's equpiment from? It no doubt evolved from Skylines in the past. The Skyline is Nissans flagship car, it is the bed in which they test all of their newest, and best technologies. And, luckily for them, it surpasses the performance of many other mark's best cars. That is why the Skyline receives so much press-- it is the best of the best.

[JDM Wagon]

Originally posted by blueboost


can you enlighten us a little on how nissan is going down hard in Japan? here in america everyone wants to tune hondas generally speaking, and in Japan it seems to be silvias and skylines and countless other worthy cars. BUT it does seem from what I've learned that Japanese tuners are very much interested in Nissans for motorsports.

anyways I like the skyline because my first car was a nissan my car now is a nissan all I've ever owned are nissans I LOVE nissan cars. Naturally I learned of the skyline and silvia many years ago and have been obsessed ever since (wanting what I cannot have like many of you I presume)

i think that is the funny part. japan's economy is in the gutter that's for sure, but you want to see some building fools, japanese love to build. anyhow, nissan has closed several of thier larger plants due to low sales.
not sure what the deal is, but i know there is a plant near me that went from producing the Z to producing one of thier larger vans and now is shut down for good. my wife (she is japanese) informs me quite often about the progress of nissan and it is never good. she tells me that their sales keeps going down. i think that is the major reason the changed to body style on most of thier line-up.
i really wish i could understand japanese better so i could give you the down and dirty from japanese news but sorry. limited to the wife's translated info when available.

[TheSyndicate]

Originally posted by willimo
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Sir, I'd like to shake your hand for such a proficient use of grammar and sentence structure. Reading your words is like comparing day to night, especially on this forum.

[rsbousquet]

Originally posted by TheSyndicate



Sir, I'd like to shake your hand for such a proficient use of grammar and sentence structure. Reading your words is like comparing day to night, especially on this forum.

Aha but he DID misspell 'Silvia'



Should we all take willimo's example and type with perfect punctuation, perfect spelling, and perfect grammar? This place would be boring if we all spoke in this manner. Can you tell me that you haven't laughed when someone wrote like they were sending SMS on a cell phone? It's funny, it keeps me entertained. If things are so dull for you that everyone else must be dull, then that just sucks, huh?

anyways, i will go back to not using capital letters. buT et lest i dun tak lyk3 dis!

shit that's hard to impersonate.