02 max SE VS 00 grand prix GTP - Page 2

joeB · #16 07-13-2003, 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by Paonessa

i have no idea but GM is supposed to b coming out with an aluminum v6 like the vq and all Gm fans claim it'll beat the VQ, but I just can't see it.

Ill have to see it to believe it.

thrasher · #17 07-13-2003, 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by joeB

Ill have to see it to believe it.

believe it...'04 CTS is packing it. 3.6 liter,DOHC, aluminum block and heads, vvt, 255 hp, 250 tq. not too bad, for an american company that is

joeB · #18 07-13-2003, 08:34 PM

Its not that I dont believe they are making the motor, I just dont
think it will be near the engine the VQ is.... Ive read about the
CTS already.

deadmaninc · #19 07-14-2003, 01:26 AM

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Originally posted by bk2kmax
Yes America is finally starting to build nice V6's, it's only taken how many decades for them to start to catch up to the Japanese.

But then it also came up to me if it clams its faster than those cars why dosent it say its faster than a G35 sedan in the comercial I have see times of that car G35 the same as the Max and Alti. <quoted by Deadmaninc

I believe the reason they (Pontiac) don't aim it at the G is because the G isn't their major competition, we all know the G is a luxury sports Sedan/Coupe.

However, the Pontiac does have a .3 displacement size advantage over the 3.5 Max, which makes this even sadder because they added the SC and they still are making what a stock G35 Sedan makes on HP with that SC. I believe that the stock Max 3.5 & G35's torque rating is very underrated, they claim it is 260 stock but in reality they are more like 270-275.

I might have gotten some of my info wrong but I know some Chrystler cars are using the MB V6 like the Pacifica and the Crossfire. G is not really luxury its know as near luxury or entery luxury and so is the Max. Besides the Max I would think is a little larger than the GTP. But the odd thing was they mention the Jaguar X-type. Ya I have to agree America does need to improve their engines because think of out if it is making like 260 under an SC and yet it weights lighter than the G and the Max yet it is slower that tells u that there must be something wrong there. You might be right about them under ratting the torque but I dont think it is by that much. I have seen dynos for the sedan many owners had liek only about 3-7 more tq and right about the same hp as rated but then very few had like 2-8 less tq and lower hp. So it just depends on how the car was tuned.

Wasnt the GNX actually rated closer to 285hp?

Paonessa · #20 07-14-2003, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by deadmaninc

Wasnt the GNX actually rated closer to 285hp?

the GN And GNX are 2 different engines. GNX's are limited edition 1987 GN's they may be rated at higher hp cuz they have a t-3 ceramic turbo and other minor details.
look here:
http://www.buickgnx.com/
regular gns are 245 or 225.

thrasher · #21 07-14-2003, 02:28 PM

i was thinking about the genIV 350 in the Z06, and that is one bad ass motor. 5.7 liters, 400+ hp and tq, 23-29 mpg, and it launches the car to 60 in 4 seconds, but the craziest thing is that it's OHV. unbelievable

bk2kmax · #22 07-14-2003, 06:59 PM

the craziest thing is that it's OHV. unbelievable<quoted by Thrasher

Yeah, that always piqued my interest, I always imagined the "What If" factor, what if it was DOHC instead, that thing would probably even be more of a monster.

G is not really luxury its know as near luxury or entery luxury<quoted by Deadmaninc

I disagree, the G35 is an entry level luxury sedan and the coupe is an entry level luxury coupe, it's counterparts the Maxima and the Z or more down the scale as far as luxury is concerned.

Your Guide · #23 07-16-2003, 03:16 PM

how do the 03 maximas compare to the 03 g35? ive had a handful of chances to break out my dads g35 sedan 5 speed auto and the thing is terribly fast. i havent timed it or anything but id say it pulls 60-120 almost as fast as my 96 maxima pulls 0-60. its just incredible how it maintains the acceleration through high speeds. then it makes me ask why he didnt get a 6 speed coupe.

deadmaninc · #24 07-16-2003, 10:12 PM

You know that on the G35 if you can get the car to get about 275 to the engine you can take the coupe in a race because the sedan is about 200lb lighter and maybe ur dad realized that and thought he can mod it to get that power.

KinKyGoOsE · #25 07-17-2003, 05:52 AM

I raced a GTP in my '97 5-speed with only an intake. He only won by a hood =/

thrasher · #26 07-17-2003, 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by KinKyGoOsE
I raced a GTP in my '97 5-speed with only an intake. He only won by a hood =/

GTP vs. 4th gen and up is a good race, if max is 5 speed.

Your Guide · #27 07-17-2003, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by deadmaninc
You know that on the G35 if you can get the car to get about 275 to the engine you can take the coupe in a race because the sedan is about 200lb lighter and maybe ur dad realized that and thought he can mod it to get that power.

no kidding? i assumed the coupe was lighter.

joeB · #28 07-17-2003, 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by KinKyGoOsE
I raced a GTP in my '97 5-speed with only an intake. He only won by a hood =/

To bad you didnt have a 95 or 96 Maxima SE with a five speed,
so you would of won.

deadmaninc · #29 07-17-2003, 08:40 PM

Let me correct my self if you can get the G35 sedan to about 275hp at the engine then you can make the car faster than the G35 coupe because sedan is lighter.

What is the diff between the 96 and 97? KinKyGoOsE what year was his car? Was the car stick like yours and was it a sedan?

Paonessa · #30 07-17-2003, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by joeB

To bad you didnt have a 95 or 96 Maxima SE with a five speed,
so you would of won.

yeah, i raced a gtp in my 95 with just an intake and i had about a car and a half on him. i don't know if it has to do with the year, but i love obd-1 cars. BTW 96's are obd-2.

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