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Old 07-10-2003, 12:17 AM
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Alrighty, my turn to chime in... Damn, I guess the Civics are SOHC Everyone's learning a little something here today!! HAHA!!. If I'm not mistaken, the SiR and TypeR Civics are DOHC, correct?
The SiR DOHC, not 100% sure on the TypeR, but i would hope its DOHC
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Old 07-10-2003, 01:41 AM
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I have owned both in my time... Civics and Accords...

All in all the Accords are more comfortable of a car then Civics. Must remember that the civic is marketted as an economy car. Accord more as a family car... and they are both designed as such.
As far as speed, all Accords I can think of are SOHC... some with VTEC some without. Same goes for Civic's except for the 99-00 Si (Canadian SiR) which has the DOHC B16A (yes people that has VTEC).
Both cars have possibilities of being fast... Civic more so then the Accord though since there are many many more aftermarket parts for them then any other car, and more has been done and looked into as far as performance goes compaired to the accord. (for instance, look up engine swaps for Civic's and you'll come up with dozens of different links... look up engine swaps for accords, and you can find next to nothing)
As far as which is better... I'm throwing my hands up on that one... I wouldn't be able to decide.
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Old 07-10-2003, 04:26 PM
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Damn I guess the Accords are SOHC...I just made the assumption that it was DOHC because the EX has a different valve cover than the LX/DX I guess because it's Multi port or whatever. My bad.
And here I thought I had a fast car because it was an EX...
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Well, all other points aside (which all had merit) I must say, being a guy that stands about 6'5" my choice between my Accord or a Civic Si of the same year (2000) was made pretty simple once I got in. Don't get me wrong, the Civic is no Geo Metro inside, but those few extra inches of legroom make a BIG difference when you're trying to shift!
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so over all the accord wins, just it needs to be a little lighter, until u compare a 94-97 accord against the Si's. thanks guys
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Old 07-10-2003, 09:25 PM
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im a little biased, but i like the 4th gen accords better than any civic, and they are also the lightest. if youre looking at both being stock, the civic will be faster, but i also care about overall comfort. and as mentioned the accord is a family oriented car, making it a more enjoyable and spacious ride. im more into the fast car rather than the quick car.

and of course, the potential of an accord. how about dropping in a built h22, good hp and killer torque. i prefer a little of everything. if i wanted just a quick car, id drop a b18 in a stripped hatch. but my car's gonna be fast enough for me, and ill still have my a/c
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Correct me if I'm wrong... so your saying a 2.2L in an Accord is slower than a 1.6L in a civic ??
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heathershonda, that depends on a lot of things. and personally i think the EX accords (5th gen) are pretty quick, even if they are SOHC. plus that makes them better for FI i think (based on the generic argument that less moving parts = less likely to break). stock for stock, my 5th gen EX accord beat a 2000 civic EX, both 5 speeds. and my car had at least 2x the miles
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Correct me if I'm wrong... so your saying a 2.2L in an Accord is slower than a 1.6L in a civic ??
well under certain circumstances, yes. right now my f22 w/ a/t tranny got stomped by my friends hatch with a completely stock d15.
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well under certain circumstances, yes. right now my f22 w/ a/t tranny got stomped by my friends hatch with a completely stock d15.

that sux man
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stock for stock, my 5th gen EX accord beat a 2000 civic EX, both 5 speeds
I didn't think the 5th gen EX came with 5spd. deezam I had a 5G LX 5spd and would be mad that I couldn't get the VTEC and keep my manny tranny. That car was quick tho. Alot quicker than I expected it to be.
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the 4 cylinder coupes came with the VTEC 5 speed and d15s are what, 102 hp? yea, that does suck man. stupid weight problem...
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well under certain circumstances, yes. right now my f22 w/ a/t tranny got stomped by my friends hatch with a completely stock d15.
Strodda, what's going on?

Yes, huge aftermarket out there for the "B" plants civs/integs. A lot of kids out there who need to be separated from their $. Research, Bonneville testing, new "break-throughs", yadda, yadda, yadda...

As we get older we all tend to slow down, get married, want to live longer so we're a little more careful. For men that stops and we go through our mid-life crisis around 40-55. It is sad, I know. Anyway, until then we're more cautious and less impetuous as a whole with our money. Demographically speaking, the cautious drivers are in the majority when it comes to buying Accords, Legends, TLs, CLs, etc...If we're going to be careful, let's enjoy the ride so go a little more comfortably down the road.

I know all of you know all this, I'm just stating it for those who may not or have forgotten.

Anyway, most younger people are going to be focused on speed, being cooler than the next civ, not looking bad by being spanked, and so-on-and-so forth. Hence, he/she'll be most likely parted from their money more impetuously (because for some unknown reason there's always a big hurry) than the typical Accord owner. Develop the parts for the civs, to give to the reviewers and pro draggers to receive free parts and deals, to appeal to the young hopeful to buy more parts, to develop more parts, to give to ....okay, the cycle has been pointed out.

All that to say, go with your hunch, find the garages to do similar work on your engines, they'll help you in developing parts and mods for the F22 SOHC, and you know what, YOU can start filling that niche and there'll be a swell of kiddos hitting the streets for used accords and the big guys will want in on some of that action, so they'll start the cycle all over again with the F22s in mind and there'll be more frequent transplants, etc...

I'm not kidding myself. It just takes someone or a small few (could be everyone here) to start that spark and the fire begins.

I'll try my hand at it. Couldn't hurt. The worst that could happen is I'll have put in a sizeable amount of money and time in developing a rare superplant F22.

Okay. someone pinch me.
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You know, a great deal of work has already been done. Lots of mods out there for other Hondas could possibly work it's just doing the homework and then jumping into the pool. The better Bosch fuel pumps that help the civs with their boost will also work for the Accords. Higher flowing injectors, adjustable fuel pressure regulators, and so on. It's just attention. The more attention that's focused on Accords the more we'll start to see an increase in aftermarket mods for them.

It's just common sense.
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So how would you guys rate a 92 Accord EX ? Personaly I love my car...if I had to buy another one it would be a 95-96 EX.
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