pros and cons zc dohc Vs. sohc

[95civicman]

what ever color you paint it just make sure it isn't black with a redflake with red ghost flames that would just be too many shaved crx's the same color

[slammed89civic]

yea, the b16, otherwise known as the tourqeless wonder

[91civicDXdude]

who needs torque when you have 8200 rev limit and VTEC

b16 = torqueless wonder = still badass

[civicHBsi91]

b16 = torqueless wonder = still badass

you forgot overpriced!

[91EF3ZC]

Originally posted by mellowboy



LOL! Ok i'm done laughing

Why do you have to be a fucking jerk-off? I was just making a compairison(sp). and I have both so I can speak from experience. I am not talking shit like I don't know.

so go fuk yourself!!!!

Mike

[mellowboy]

Originally posted by 91EF3ZC

Why do you have to be a fucking jerk-off? I was just making a compairison(sp). and I have both so I can speak from experience. I am not talking shit like I don't know.

so go fuk yourself!!!!

Mike

Damn yo relax. thats why i put the wink there cause i mean no harm.

[nemo_wolf]

Originally posted by 91EF3ZC

was very suprised at the amount of torque it has.

i think the big diffrence in the two engines ... SOHC ZC and the SI engine is that we produce a bit more torque at higher RPMS. i dont know of any actualy statistics cause its uncommonly used engine for performance. I used to have a 91 LX and this is a vast improvement. a buddy of mine drove my car, he is a hobby mechanic and has done work on both my cars, and actually said "wow".

I notice my SOHC ZC even though its running DPFI can handle hills infinitly better then my LX engine could. I used to drop like 10-15mph on a hill now i keep a steady speed all the way through unless im going over 90-95. and these aint no small hills either ... so dont let these b-series punks give yea shit man. switch your system to MPFI if you havnt already and show em what real men can do with a car.

[91EF3ZC]

Originally posted by mellowboy


Damn yo relax. thats why i put the wink there cause i mean no harm.

sorry bro, I did not notice the wink, I just hate it when people get so negative about shit. I never reply to a thread/post that I don't know.
That is why I felt offended. I just seemed you were saying I was full of it.

Truely sorry,

Mike

[91EF3ZC]

Originally posted by nemo_wolf


i think the big diffrence in the two engines ... SOHC ZC and the SI

The biggest difference in the ZC and the Si motor is compression.
don't know the actual numbers tho.

[jNYCe5]

shit, i'll vouch for mike's car... that single cam moves pretty good... considering i had 17's on the car, four 15's(rims) in the trunk and me and my girl (no excuses we was running good...
shit, i loved my single cam...
but cant nothing take me away from being able to rev freely to 8200 and just hear the vtec wailing...

my .02 cents

[Civic Jim]

Originally posted by Crxce
Im not sure what im doing with the paint yet i wanted some advice on that 2 im like 6 months from painting it but what colors or color schemes do you guys think?? thanks

I absolutely ADORED the colour of my bros charade, it was Toyota Yaris Gold,

heres a link to the car, I think your car would look sweet in that colour

http://civicjim.20m.com/images/adams_front_left.jpg

lol, see the 3 charades in the 1 pic , we luved em

tell me wot u reckon

cheerz

Jim

[mellowboy]

Originally posted by 91EF3ZC


sorry bro, I did not notice the wink, I just hate it when people get so negative about shit. I never reply to a thread/post that I don't know.
That is why I felt offended. I just seemed you were saying I was full of it.

Truely sorry,

Mike

Its all g man

[sastanley]

I personally think the only real difference is the ability to slighty fine tune a DOHC better than a SOHC motor...but with the SOHC ZC only making about 5hp?? less than the DOHC, they are pretty close.

Like Melt said, the first key is making sure whatever motor you get has a MPFI conversion...DPFI is great for economy, but a performance system it is not.

I would say DOHC cuz I have one (albeit on an engine stand still ), and I think they look cool compared to a SOHC, but get whatever works for you.

And to answer the Q from above - I think a DOHC ZC compression ratio is 9.5:1 and a d16a6 is 9.1:1, but I am not 100% sure.

Edit - ZC = 9.6:1 I was close.
http://hybrid2.honda-perf.org/tech/engine.html

[91EF3ZC]

Originally posted by mellowboy



Its all g man

COOL

[91civicDXdude]

I personally dont know the specs but common sense will tell u a couple things which u can draw your own conclusions from.


the D16a6 has 108hp SOHC NON VTEC
the ZC has 130 hp DOHC NON VTEC
the D16z6 has 125hp SOHC VTEC
the D15B has 125hp SOHC VTEC

SOHC ZC 125hp SOHC NON VTEC??? <--- i dont see how they can make a SOHC 1.6L engine put out the same horsepower stock as the SOHC VTEC engine, unless the SOHC ZC has a wild cam, which i doubt it does.

If someone has a picture of a D16a6 piston, please post because i have seen the inside of a SOHC ZC block and want to know if the pistons are the same.. i am kind of wondering myself about the specs of the SOHC ZC, but like i said earlier, its a stretch to say it has 125hp. common sense says that if honda could squeeze 125hp out a 1.6L non vtec, then spending the extra money/technology on making a VTEC engine which was equal to that of the earlier NON VTEC engine is pointless.

Im guessing that if anything, the sohc zc is the same as a d16a6, or maybe it has 110hp instead of 108hp.. 125 sounds a bit on the high side.