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Old 12-01-2011, 06:19 PM   #196
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

Here are the two pics I was referring in my earlier post:



The "thing" with the air intake below "Davidoff" seems to be a similar thing they tried on the 19R in the Barcelona tests, maybe to gain better aerodynamic efficiency, just a more developed version of it.

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Old 12-01-2011, 07:40 PM   #197
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

I think it's actually a blocker to control the amount of airflow considering it was probably fairly cold during March testing. You don't want too much cold air cooling the car systems or it might not reach ideal operating temperatures. Some of the earlier GTRs used small panels fitted over the lower portion of the radiator openings to do the same thing.

Does that middle duct in the nose of the longtails feed air into the cockpit? Maybe they were just trying to keep the driver from freezing?

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Old 12-02-2011, 09:49 AM   #198
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

So which one it is?
Should we ask Mr.Ray about this?
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

Hi guys, check that pic.
(also have a look at the 3 pics of 21R / Probably new for all of you)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/emka41/with/6442445667/
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

New for me. Thanks!
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I like that, Davidoff41 produces new shots
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

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Does that middle duct in the nose of the longtails feed air into the cockpit? Maybe they were just trying to keep the driver from freezing?
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No that air entrance is for front brakes, and 21R had also that same item in Hockenheim 1997.
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So, definitly 25R?
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So, definitly 25R?
Yes, putting all pieces of the puzzle together I can't see any other option than it being 25R.
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

Did #05R had a new engine somepoint in 1996?!
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater

And also take a look these ones!
http://fi-fi.facebook.com/pages/BPR-...10535045684293
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

Did any of you guys see all of these pics yet?
http://www.lemans-history.com/fotos...._seq=0&piloto=
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

Can Doc or anyone tell me, why David Price's #03R had that Davidoff livery in 1995 and why the #06R weared San Miguel livery?

Some evening my friend asked me that, do I know the reason why they had these liveries?
I think it must be some "usual" sponsorship-thing, nothing else I think?
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did any of you guys see all of these pics yet?
http://www.lemans-history.com/fotos...._seq=0&piloto=
no.........................!

I just can not believe how much there is images, 1997 just wieving, so much new ones and huh.
There was 95-98 plenty of new ones, atleast to me.
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Can Doc or anyone tell me, why David Price's #03R had that Davidoff livery in 1995 and why the #06R weared San Miguel livery?

Some evening my friend asked me that, do I know the reason why they had these liveries?
I think it must be some "usual" sponsorship-thing, nothing else I think?
03R was sponsored by REEMTSMA, the parent company behind the West and Davidoff brands. West is their "regular" brand and wasn't available during those days in many of the countries/markets it's now available. Davidoff has been their premium brand that also includes other than tobacco products. Those were better available on the other markets than their West brand cigarettes and also then it was easier to advertise such products in even those countries that prohibited the direct tobacco advertising (similarities to Marlboro and Camel branded clothing!).

Also in the far east races like Suzuka and Zhuhai (or the Brazilian races in 1996) it was financially better to use other more local sponsors on the cars than in the European races and so 06R had the San Miguel livery in the 1995 Zhuhai race as Harrods didn't have their shop there in China yet and gave the "local" brewery (don't mix it with the Spanish San Miguel beer!) the opportunity to "build their brand image". Similarly in the 1996 Zhuhai race for 12R and 15R "Gulf oil had no interests in China, so the GTC McLarens appeared instead in Marlboro livery" (DA, p239).

I guess also the rules played a part as in the BPR series they were moore loose about the sponsoring/adveritising/livery changes than in the FIA regulated series. I'm not sure would it been even possible to have the cars of one team to have different liveries (such as DPR had the West/Harrods liveries 1995-96) in the FIA GT series. At least we saw quite a many livery changes during the BPR series, and sadly not so many during the FIA GT series.
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

It's good to know what was going behind the scenes those days. Very very interesting! Thanks Doc, again.!
I'll linked this to my friend, hope he is happy.
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