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Old 11-24-2011, 05:51 AM   #181
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

It's certainly true that #28R began life as #27R and very early on their chassis plates were swapped.

I have heard the Rofgo rumor as well, but BingoSports are very good about keeping their inventory up to date on their website and they still list #28R as being available.

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Old 11-24-2011, 06:30 AM   #182
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

I agree, very strange again.
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Old 12-01-2011, 02:18 AM   #183
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

Don't think we have seen this particular photo before from the FIA GT shakedown in March of 1997.



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Old 12-01-2011, 01:54 PM   #184
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

Which chassis this is?
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Old 12-01-2011, 03:15 PM   #185
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

Probably 20R but I think Le Man or DocGTR can confirm.

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Old 12-01-2011, 03:23 PM   #186
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

I think it's 22R
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Old 12-01-2011, 04:00 PM   #187
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

Yes - in fact based on the mirrors being body colored that is most likely the right answer. As can be seen from my current signature image 20R had the orange mirrors and 28R wore black ones.

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Old 12-01-2011, 04:00 PM   #188
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

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Probably 20R but I think Le Man or DocGTR can confirm.

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Old 12-01-2011, 04:10 PM   #189
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^^^ Or that...

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Old 12-01-2011, 04:28 PM   #190
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

If the base to confirm are mirrors, we are wrong cause in Hockenheim fia-gt race 20R, 22R & 25R was with blue mirrors.
But another detail are the yellow patchs which was on 25R (still in Hockenheim)
So definitly 25R?
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

Mirrors aren't crusial to decide the chassis in this case as all the Gulf Team Davidoff longtail GTRs had the blue mirrors also in the the season opening Hockenheim 4H race. Only in Silverstone they had the usual orange/blue/black mirrors to differentiate them. In Hockenheim race they had the markings on the windscreen banner edges and behind the rear wing (#1 no markings, #2 yellow and #3 red). These markings can be seen in the GT Endurance 1997 book too. Also I found a couple of other pictures of that similar photo session (Sutton + Speedhunters) and looking closer to the area of the driver names on the side and comparing these to 22R and 25R during the '97 season I think it better matches the Bellm/Gilbert-Scott pairing (25R). Also I'm confident the session was at Paul Ricard, not at Jarama and the other photos just made it sure. But if anyone has any more and better clues, I'll gladly accept them.
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

I have one pic from Hockenheim with the 3 Gulf cars in the garage and we see well n°1 #25R with yellow patchs
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I have one pic from Hockenheim with the 3 Gulf cars in the garage and we see well n°1 #25R with yellow patchs
Ok, can you show that pic? I couldn't find any such pic quickly that would show the front of the #1 at Hockenheim to show the yellow markings, at least so that it could be identified as the #1.
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Re: GTR Racing Livery - Index

What about the different air intake at the front, below Davidoff ?
I'm not sure it's 22R
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I'm not sure it's 22R
Neither is anyone else... now.

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