******TERRORIST ATTACK ON THE U.S.******

[Sleepy]

kill all the rag head mutha fuckers except isareal take all there fuckin oil make gas prices like 75 cents a gallon and be done with it stop pussy footing around with these crazy ass people as long as there around this shit will contunie to happen its been happing in middle east for ever now they have just found a new play ground

[kris]

I heard now that people that are trapped in the rubble are calling for help on their cell phones. That would be so hard. Knowing that there is not much that can be done.

[Heep]

"Angry Johnny" by Poe seems an appropriate song right now...just replace Johnny with Bun Laden or something

[gang$tarr]

Originally posted by hermunn123


ya...what do you want him to do?? that's all that he can do. i am soo glad he's el presidente and not that idiot gore.

My words exactly!!! gore's a retard, he would have no clue what to do right now. Right now you need a Republican! a strong texan



btw, guys don't post too much i'm goin ta sleep and i don't feel like readin a book tomorrow

[Heep]

Me too. G'nite.

[Moppie]

Originally posted by Heep
"Angry Johnny" by Poe seems an appropriate song right now...just replace Johnny with Bun Laden or something

I didnt think she was that popular, but your right, it would make a suitabel song.

What I said about Bush was my oppion based on what I had seen os speechs but not only Bush, but Arafat, Blair, ex primeminster of Israel, Priminster of Franch, President Putin, our own Polititions here in NZ.
But your right youd be screwed if you had Al Gore.

If you ppl in America think it was a good speech then it achieved its goal.
and im sure Bush's speach writers know the american ppl better than I do.

Sleepy: An armed response will achieve nothing now. at all.

[Racer 20]

This is insain. I know every detail so I won't post anything about that for newcomers (if you haven't heard by know...) but I just want everybody in the east coast know that I'm praying for them.

[JD@af]

Hey, I haven't read all the above postings (it's late and that's A LOT of reading), but while I was lucky enough not to have lost any friends or family down in NYC today, I know there are lots who have lost friends and relatives. I offer my prayers and best wishes to all those individuals.

I never thought I would see the day where the twin towers would fall, least of all at the hands of a terrorist attack, and yet that day is upon us. This is truly a sad day for all Americans, and the entire free world. Let's hope things look up from here.

[Seb928S@af]

Right now 2 NYPD members where find alive in all that crap they are hoping there will be more people alive.

[Darkwing]

After reading ALL of the posts here, I am mostly gladdened. I am gladdened for many reasons. Still very, very upset, but this is a bright spot. Why?
1) Look how so much of the world is behind the US and how much support is being given toward US.
2) The Christians are coming out and standing up for their beliefs. Openly stating that they are praying for the dead and families of those dead. and for USA as a whole. I say Amen to that!
3) Look how everyone is uniting. In some form or fashion, America and it's true allies are helping each other and strengthinging our bonds.
4) I missed Bush's speach and am glad I voted for the right guy after listening to what you all said he said. He is doing exactly the right thing, and I applaud him for it. My prayers also go out to him as he must make some very very difficult decisions very soon.
5) I have never seen NYC with my own eyes, but even though the 2 wtc buildings are down, the statue of liberty still stands proud. America WILL weather this attack, and those responsible will be brought to a fitting end IF Bush does make the right decisions. When you pray for all the people affected by this tradgedy, say a special prayer for Bush, that he make the right choice, the best choice.

My own prayers will be for all you people out there in the whole world. No one is unaffected by this. I pray long life and peace to you all.

Darkwing out.

[deftonez24]

i havent heard much on the people on the planes. the only thing ive heard is about a couple of pilots and then on the little news briefs that run at the bottom of the screen it said that the executive producer of fraiser was killed, thats it. What about those people? those people had no clue when they boarded this morning.

[kris]

The information you'll find below is extensive proof of quilt leading towards bin ladin however sometimes its simpler things that can finger someone

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Anti-U.S. Agenda
Bin Ladin advocates the destruction of the United States, which he sees as the chief obstacle to reform in Muslim societies. Since 1996, his anti-U.S. rhetoric has escalated to the point of calling for worldwide attacks on Americans and our allies, including civilians.
-- Bin Ladin publicly issued his "Declaration of War" against the United States in August 1996.
-- When anti-U.S. attacks did not materialize immediately, he explained the delay: "If we wanted to carry out small operations, it would have been easy to do so immediately after the statements. Even the nature of the battle requires good preparation."
-- In November 1996 he pronounced as "praiseworthy terrorism" the bombings in Riyadh and at Khobar in Saudi Arabia, promising that other attacks would follow. He admitted carrying out attacks on U.S. military personnel in Somalia and Yemen, declaring that "we used to hunt them down in Mogadishu."
-- He stated in an interview broadcast in February 1997 that "if someone can kill an American soldier, it is better than wasting time on other matters."
-- In February 1998, Bin Ladin announced the creation of a new alliance of terrorist organizations, the "International Islamic Front for Jihad Against the Jews and Crusaders." The Front included the Egyptian al-Gama'at al-Islamiyya, the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, the Harakat ul-Ansar, and two other groups. The Front declared its intention to attack Americans and our allies, including civilians, anywhere in the world.
-- In May 1998, he stated at a press conference in Afghanistan that we would see the results of his threats "in a few weeks."
February 12, 1989 Bush OKs Military Aid For Rebels ByAP
KENNEBUNKPORT, Maine (AP) - President Bush has approved continuing U.S. military aid to the Mujahadeen rebels resisting the Soviet-imposed government in Afghanistan, an administration spokesman said Saturday. Deputy press secretary Steve Hart confirmed that Bush had decided Friday to continue helping the rebels. "The president met with his National Security Council," Hart said, "and reaffirmed U.S. policy" of continuing the flow of money, arms and supplies to the rebels..."
March 16, 1989 Column: LEONARD LARSEN Financing Afghan guerillas may return harsh dividends ByLEONARD LARSEN
WASHINGTON - The situation in Afghanistan is fluid, as the diplomats say, but it's clear the "freedom fighters" American taxpayers financed with more than $2 billion have now become "holy warriors" with no debt of friendship to the United States.
In celebrating the rebel victory, Americans might also contemplate the possibility that other Islamic "holy warriors" may soon be perched near airports around the world, targeting civilian planes with the deadly U.S. missiles we sent to the "freedom fighters."
June 6, 1989 Pentagon Plans Sale Of Arms to Pakistan ByAP
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Pentagon notified Congress on Monday it had approved sales of torpedoes and anti-aircraft missiles valued at $68 million to Pakistan. The plans were announced the day Pakistan's Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto was scheduled to arrive in the capital for talks with President Bush, Secretary of State James A. Baker III and congressional leaders. Pakistan has supported anti-Communist fighters battling the Marxist government in neighboring Afghanistan, and it has served as a conduit for U.S. aid destined for the rebels..."
July 26, 1990 Baker denies accord in Afghan dispute ByAP
JAKARTA, Indonesia (AP)..." The Bush administration has been hoping for a breakthrough to end the war between Afghan government forces armed by the Soviet Union and a guerrilla coalition fighting with American- supplied weapons funneled through Pakistan..."
Bin Laden, US' own creation, becomes its enemy no 1 Chidanand Rajghatta -----------------------------------------------------------
WASHINGTON, AUG 21: Osama Bin Laden, the Saudi millionaire-turned-renegade charged with international terrorism, bears a striking similarity to the late Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale. The resemblance is more than just facial. Like Bhindranwale, Bin Laden was created by the very forces which are now seeking to destroy him. Experts are almost unanimous in saying that bin Laden is a creature of a US foreign policy which recklessly fed and nurtured him and his Islamic warriors with million of dollars worth of money and arms to fight the Soviet occupation in Afghanistan. The money was funnelled largely through Pakistan's maverick Inter-Services Intelligence. Even at that time, Bin Laden and his holy warriors had made it clear that the US was as much anathema to them as the communists.
The CIA is now trying to destroy the same camps it helped set up, Robert Fisk, a British writer who covered the region and who met bin Laden at his camp recently said on Friday in an interview on National Public Radio. Fisk said Bin Laden did not appear to be such a fearsome international terrorist that the US was making him out to be. On the contrary, he was isolated, lonely, virtually unlistened to, and was constantly trying to know what was happening in other parts of the world.
US officials have made Bin Laden out to be a terrorist mastermind operating out of a high-tech cave filled with satellite phones and other gizmos overseeing a worldwide network of extremist organisations. Bin Laden is said to be around 43 years old. Born in Jeddah in Saudi Arabia, he is the youngest son of Mohammed bin Laden, a wealthy Saudi who founded the Bin Laden Group, a construction firm that thrived on Saudi government contracts. Osama Bin Laden is said to have inherited some $ 300 million from his father. In his mid-20s he left Saudi Arabia for Afghanistan to fight in the so-called Jihad against the Soviet forces in Afghanistan. Several accounts have it that he was cultivated by the CIA, which helped him set up camps in and around Khost, the same town now bombed by US forces.
After the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan, bin Laden returned to Saudi Arabia to work in his father's construction business. But he soon began to oppose the Saudi royal family, especially after the Gulf War when US troops landed in Saudi Arabia and remained there. He launched a local movement to force US troops out of the country, railing against the defilement of the Muslim holy places of Mecca and Medina.
But he was thrown out of the country by the rulers and was virtually disowned by his family. He relocated to Sudan in 1991 and resumed his construction operations there. Sudanese officials said they expelled him in 1996 under US pressure after Washington suspected him to be indulging in terrorist activities.
US officials think he and his followers were involved in the bombing of US training facility in Riyadh in 1995 which killed seven people (including two Indians) and the Khobar Towers bombing in 1996 which killed 19 US servicemen.
Bin Laden relocated to Afghanistan in 1996 and has been on the US terrorism watchlist since. Earlier this year, the US ambassador to UN Bill Richardson contacted the Afghan Taliban rulers to ask for bin Laden but was reportedly turned down. In several interviews this year, bin Laden openly issued threats to the US, calling for a holy war to evict the infidels from Saudi Arabia. In February this year, he is said to have issued a fatwaurging holy Islamic warriors to kill Americans everywhere, whether military or civilian. In June this year, he is said to have presided over a conclave of extremist leaders from across the world in Peshawar under the umbrella of the Islamic Front, which endorsed the fatwaand decided upon an undisclosed course of action.
American intelligence agencies tracked all these movements closely and issued a heightened alert warning to its US personnel and establishments in South Asia and the Middle East. But bin Laden, they now say, struck in East Africa."

THE GW BUSH--OSAMA BIN LADIN CONNECTION
James R. Bath, friend and neighbor of George W. Bush, was used as a cash funnel from Osama bin Laden's rich father, Sheikh bin Laden, to set George W. Bush up in business, according to reputable sources from the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times. The connection between GW Bush, the bin Laden family, and the Bank Commerce Credit International (BCCI) is well documented. The excerpts from the books and news articles are supplemented by the links at the bottom of the page to the cash flow charts of the bin Laden-backed BCCI money which was funneled into the Bush family in return for favors.
"Bath--who made his fortune by investing money for Mahfouz and another BCCI-connected Saudi, Sheikh bin-Laden--...was an original investor in George Bush Jr.'s oil exploration company..." from The Outlaw Bank, page 229.
"Bath provided financing to George W. Bush, the future president's eldest son, when he went into the oil business..." from False Profits, page 365.
"Bath told me he was in the CIA...he had been recruited by George Bush himself 1n 1976 when Bush was director of the agency...Bath and George, Jr. were pals and flew together in the same Air National Guard unit, and Bath lived down the street from the Bush family when George, Sr. was living in Houston...he became representative for Sheikh Khalid bin-Mafouz...one of the richest men in the world, and he was a controlling shareholder in...BCCI..." from The Outlaw Bank, page 228.
"During George Bush's tenure as CIA director, the agency was allegedly involved in a very curious business deal with James R. Bath, a Texas businessman who is a friend and sometime financial backer of one of Bush's sons (George Bush, Jr.). Bath was also a business associate of Khalid bin Mafouze and an important BCCI insider." from http://www.freerepublic.com/forum.a1000396.htm
"...BCCI would make payments to key officials, sometimes in suitcases filled with cash. As BCCI officer Abdur Askhia stated in interviews tithe Subcommittee staff: Abedi's philosophy was to appeal to every sector. President Carter's main thing was charity, so he gave Carter charity. Pakistani President Zia's brother in law needed a job, he got a job. Bangladeshi president Ashraf's mistress needed a job, she got a job. Admission of your son to a top college, he would arrange it somehow. There was a world wide list of people who were in the payoff of BCCI...". from United States Senate Subcommittee Report on Bank Credit Commerce International, 1992--the Kerry Committee.
Osama bin Laden, whose funds were inherited from his father, Sheikh bin Laden's BCCI investments, has been operating out of Afghanistan since he was established as a conduit for CIA funds in the 1980's. "Afghanistan was by far the biggest; it was, in fact, the biggest CIA operationof all time, both in terms of dollars spent ($5-$6 billion) and personnel involved..."from the book The CIA's Greatest Hits.
The story of the Bush involvement in the BCCI scandal involved "trails that branched, crossed one another, or came to unexpected dead ends...". It was like a "three dimensional chess game." from The Outlaw Bank, page 227.
"Brent Scowcroft, the national security advisor to President Bush, said that the younger Bush clearly lacks international credentials as reported to the Boston Globe April 5th. "Is he comfortable with foreign policy? I would say not." Scowcroft said. The governor's main experience "was being around when his father was in his many positions." from http://www.georgebush2000.com/

CASH FLOW OF GEORGE W BUCH http://www.pir.org/cgi-bin/nbonlin6...._GEORGE_W%20JR

20 August 1998 TEXT: U.S. GOVERNMENT FACTSHEET ON USAMA BIN LADIN (Saudi advocates destruction of United States) (860) (The following U.S. government factsheet was distributed by the Defense Department August 20, 1998.) Usama Bin Ladin was born around 1955 in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. He is the youngest son of Muhammad Bin Ladin, a wealthy Saudi of Yemeni origin and founder of the Bin Ladin Group, a construction firm heavily involved with Saudi Government contracts. Usama Bin Ladin left Saudi Arabia to fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan in 1979. In the mid-1980s he co-founded the Maktab al-Khidamat (MAK) or Services Office, to help funnel fighters and money to the Afghan resistance in Peshawar with a Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood member named 'Abdallah 'Azzam. The MAK ultimately established recruitment centers around the world -- including in the U.S., Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan -- that enlisted, sheltered, and transported thousands of individuals from over 50 countries to Afghanistan to fight the Soviets. It also organized and funded paramilitary training camps in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Bin Ladin imported heavy equipment to cut roads and tunnels and to build hospitals and storage depots in Afghanistan.

Bin Ladin split from 'Azzam in the late 1980s to extend his campaign to all corners of the globe: 'Azzam remained focused only on support to Muslims waging military campaigns. Bin Ladin formed a new organization in 1988 called al-Qa'ida -- the military "base." After 'Azzam was killed by a car bomb in late 1989, the MAK split, with the extremist faction joining Bin Ladin's organization.

Bin Ladin returned to work in his family's Jeddah-based construction business after the Soviets withdrew from Afghanistan in 1989, but he continued his organization to support opposition movements in Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

Bin Ladin's anti-government activities prompted the Saudi government to expel him in 1991, after which he relocated to Sudan. Although the Afghan war had ended, al-Qa'ida has remained a formidable organization consisting of mujahedin of many nationalities who had previously fought with Bin Ladin. Many of these have remained loyal to and continue working with him today.

In May 1996, Sudan expelled Bin Ladin, largely in response to U.S. insistence and to the threat of UN sanctions following Sudan's alleged complicity in the attempted assassination of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in Ethiopia in 1995. Within a month, Bin Ladin took refuge in Afghanistan, where his support for and participation in Islamic extremist activities continued.

Bin Ladin's Organization

Al-Qa'ida's goal, in Bin Ladin's words, is to "unite all Muslims and to establish a government which follows the rule of the Caliphs." Bin Ladin has stated that the only way to establish the Caliphate is by force. Al-Qa'ida's goal, therefore, is to overthrow nearly all Muslim governments, which Bin Ladin views as "corrupt," to drive Western influence from those countries, and eventually to abolish state boundaries.

Al-Qa'ida is multi-national, with members from numerous countries and with a worldwide presence. Senior leaders in the organization are also senior leaders in other terrorist organizations, including those designated by the Department of State as foreign terrorist organizations, such as the Egyptian al-Gama'at al-Islamiyya and the Egyptian al-Jihad. Al-Qa'ida seeks a global radicalization of existing Islamic groups and the creation of radical Islamic groups where none exist.

Al-Qa'ida supports Muslim fighters in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Chechnya, Tajikistan, Somalia, Yemen, and now Kosovo. It also trains members of terrorist organizations from such diverse countries as the Philippines, Algeria, and Eritrea.


FBI TOP TEN MOST WANTED
USAMA BIN LADIN
MURDER OF U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; CONSPIRACY TO MURDER U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; ATTACK ON A FEDERAL FACILITY RESULTING IN DEATH
Aliases: Usama Bin Muhammad Bin Ladin, Shaykh Usama Bin Ladin, the Prince, the Emir, Abu Abdallah, Mujahid Shaykh, Hajj, the Director
DESCRIPTION
Date of Birth: 1957 Hair: Brown
Place of Birth: Saudi Arabia Eyes: Brown
Height: 6' 4" to 6' 6" Complexion: Olive
Weight: Approximately 160 pounds Sex: Male
Build: Thin Nationality: Saudi Arabian
Occupations: Unknown
Remarks: Leader of a terrorist organization known as Al-Qaeda "The Base".
He walks with a cane.
Scars and Marks: None
CAUTION
USAMA BIN LADEN IS WANTED IN CONNECTION WITH THE AUGUST 7, 1998, BOMBINGS OF THE UNITED STATES EMBASSIES IN DAR ES SALAAM, TANZANIA AND NAIROBI, KENYA. THESE ATTACKS KILLED OVER 200 PEOPLE.
CONSIDERED ARMED AND EXTREMELY DANGEROUS
IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION CONCERNING THIS PERSON, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR LOCAL FBI OFFICE OR THE NEAREST U.S. EMBASSY OR CONSULATE.
REWARD
The United States Government is offering a reward of up to $5 million for information leading directly to the apprehension or conviction of Usama Bin Laden.

Transcript of Osama Bin Ladin interview by Peter Arnett
REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, you've declared a jihad against the United States. Can you tell us why? And is the jihad directed against the US government or the United States' troops in Arabia? What about US civilians in Arabia or the people of the United States?
BIN LADIN: We declared jihad against the US government, because the US government is unjust, criminal and tyrannical. It has committed acts that are extremely unjust, hideous and criminal whether directly or through its support of the Israeli occupation of the Prophet's Night Travel Land (Palestine). And we believe the US is directly responsible for those who were killed in Palestine, Lebanon and Iraq. The mention of the US reminds us before everything else of those innocent children who were dismembered, their heads and arms cut off in the recent explosion that took place in Qana (in Lebanon). This US government abandoned even humanitarian feelings by these hideous crimes. It transgressed all bounds and behaved in a way not witnessed before by any power or any imperialist power in the world. They should have been considerate that the qibla (Mecca) of the Muslims upheaves the emotion of the entire Muslim World. Due to its subordination to the Jews the arrogance and haughtiness of the US regime has reached, to the extent that they occupied the qibla of the Muslims (Arabia) who are more than a billion in the world today. For this and other acts of aggression and injustice, we have declared jihad against the US, because in our religion it is our duty to make jihad so that God's word is the one exalted to the heights and so that we drive the Americans away from all Muslim countries. As for what you asked whether jihad is directed against US soldiers, the civilians in the land of the Two Holy Places (Saudi Arabia, Mecca and Medina) or against the civilians in America, we have focused our declaration on striking at the soldiers in the country of The Two Holy Places. The country of the Two Holy Places has in our religion a peculiarity of its own over the other Muslim countries. In our religion, it is not permissible for any non-Muslim to stay in our country. Therefore, even though American civilians are not targeted in our plan, they must leave. We do not guarantee their safety, because we are in a society of more than a billion Muslims. A reaction might take place as a result of US government's hitting Muslim civilians and executing more than 600 thousand Muslim children in Iraq by preventing food and medicine from reaching them. So, the US is responsible for any reaction, because it extended its war against troops to civilians. This is what we say. As for what you asked regarding the American people, they are not exonerated from responsibility, because they chose this government and voted for it despite their knowledge of its crimes in Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq and in other places and its support of its agent regimes who filled our prisons with our best children and scholars. We ask that may God release them.
REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, will the end of the United States' presence in Saudi Arabia, their withdrawal, will that end your call for jihad against the United States and against the US ?
BIN LADIN: The cause of the reaction must be sought and the act that has triggered this reaction must be eliminated. The reaction came as a result of the US aggressive policy towards the entire Muslim world and not just towards the Arabian peninsula. So if the cause that has called for this act comes to an end, this act, in turn, will come to an end. So, the driving-away jihad against the US does not stop with its withdrawal from the Arabian peninsula, but rather it must desist from aggressive intervention against Muslims in the whole world

[DVSNCYNIKL]

Good morning everyone. I would like to first say that I am okay and my family is okay also. I haven't heard from them till 7pm. I would also like to express my condolensces to the families of victims of this horrific tragedy. My family was right there next to the twin towers and saw everything unfold. People were running and screaming all over the place. I still can't get over the fact that this has happened. I believe everyone is now aware that 3 buildings of the World Trade Center or no more.

I also want to thank all those that expressed concern for me and to let you know that I appreciate it.

[DVSNCYNIKL]

Just some images of the horror.

[DVSNCYNIKL]

No More!